Are Atheists justified in questioning the "Patriotism" of those who place religion before citizenship?

Question

As non-believers, are their voices less important in reference to where a believer's loyalties lay to their national interest? Is it ok to have a duty to country and not God to you as a Christian citizen?

Answer 1

Considering the fact that most of the people in the U.S. questioning the patriotism of others are the conservatives questioning the liberals. And generally speaking the conservatives are more likely to be Christians and the liberals are more likely to be atheists.

Personally, I am an atheist but usually side with the conservatives when the liberals' patriotism comes into question.

This is a very good question though. I am trying to imagine if the roles were reversed. I would have to say that if a Christian committed an act of treason out of loyalty to their God, that would pretty much be the last straw. Freedom of religion is supposed to be a good thing, but when it causes a person to turn on the same country that gave them this freedom, I'd say it's time for a good old fashioned hanging.

Answer 2

I heard this discussion the other day as it relates specifically to Muslims - with the argument that Muslims cannot possibly be good Americans due to their religion's requirement for submission to Allah and the mullahs.

The point you raise really is an interesting one - especially given the obvious references to God and to religious freedoms set forth by the founding fathers.

I guess my personal view is that we can hold allegiances to many people and many institutions, and provided there never exists a true head-to-head choice between one or another, that is fine.

I could see such a head-to-head occuring in the future between those of Islamic faith and U.S citizenship, but I don;t think I could ever envision an American war against Christians (except in Hollywood or San Francisco).

Answer 3

Justified??? Justice? Just? Nope I dont think humans are able to be thouse things untill they accept God into there life!!! Hows that for illogical lol.

Honestly tho each person has own form of justice and a person can be very just vs another but when you get a group of people together trying to decide on how to be justified vs another group thats when you get problems... Its like trying to explain current day happenings with quantum physics... The calculations are to huge to process and thus its very ineffective and imo the wrong way to go about things... Quantum physics is for Quantum level physics. Same as Justice is for one person vs another imo but sense we live in a community that doesnt believe this I guess... I am screwed...

Answer 4

This isn't a robot country. We are not programmed like robots to beleive the same as everyone else. I don't beleive that just because a person is an athiest, it makes him/her a lessor person. The same with Christians, their beleif does not make him/her a lesser person. It's our right as an American citizen to witness our beleifs and what we stand for. If we couldn't do that, then this would be a dictatorship. Plain and simple. Freedom comes with a price, and we all need to learn to get along with each other. :o)

Answer 5

Patriotism refers STRICTLY to one's loyalties to NATION, and is irrespective of religious belief. Given that, ANY question on patriotism is valid, regardless of the religious beliefs of the one asking. This IS a nation founded on both the principals of religious freedom and separation of church and state. You have the right to worship as you choose to, or not at all if you so choose. If you choose your religion over loyalty to this nation, then you potentially become subject to the "All enemies, foreign or domestic" part of the oaths that all servicemen, and the President, take. To NOT honor that oath makes one guilty of treason. I would say the question is valid.

Answer 6

Well I don't see why. Not like anyone's ever questioned our patriotism (cough...George Bush...cough.)

It depends on how far the loyalty to their faith goes. There are people who put their religious beliefs so far ahead,they do even seem to hate the secular principles our nation was founded on,even going so far as to advocate theocracy over democracy. In their case, yes. Their patriotism should be questioned.

Answer 7

In terms of a nation, are not believer's voices less important as they are expressing loyalty to a different ruling power?

Can we trust anyone that votes based on their morality as if it was the only moral system? Or worse, that tries to enforce their morality on others through the law?

Can you consider people who disbelieve in proven facts and accept ill informed arguments as truth, responsible voters?

Answer 8

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Answer 9

Yes, we are justified.
I don't want a religious zealot in charge of executing the laws of my country. As someone said, the good of the citizens should come before the personal beliefs of the individual.

Answer 10

Of course they are justified. When you're part of a nation that touts "freedom of religion" then that, in and of itself, states that there will be NO favoritism for any specific religion.

That also states clearly that you or anyone has the right to practice your faith, up to the point of infringing on the rights of others.

Rights of ALL citizens takes precedence over personal beliefs.