I`m a (pantheist/atheist) so I do realize that certain belief systems are compatible.
But I don`t get how someone can say that the existence of God is unknowable too not believing in his existence at the same time?
If his existence is unknowable then you are contending that the question at hand can never be answered by human logic and reasoning. That it is above and beyond our comprehension. How can you go from that to saying that you do not believe (Through logic and reasoning) that he exists?
These two beliefs systems seem to be mutually exclusive.
2007-10-19 08:08:16 · 15 answers · asked by Future 5 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
Adam G - What evidence is lacking?
2007-10-19 08:18:27 · update #1
Leviathan - You have NOOOOO idea what a pantheist is. Pantheist believe that everything is God. You, I, the cosmos are all God, that we are apart of The All. Many things follow from this definition of God. Whats important to note here is that you have no idea what you are talking about.
2007-10-19 08:20:08 · update #2
Linnie - You have no idea what phuck you`re talking about either. You idiots need to under what a pantheist is before you can comment on it.
2007-10-19 09:27:22 · update #3
Hey Grimey...
I get where youre coming from, and Ill try to explain...
There is philosophy, and then there is belief.
Philosophically, I agree that the question of God's existence is an unknowable one - one will not answer until each of us is dead and gone. When I engage other in debate about God, I stand at this position typically - that maybe he does, maybe he doesnt, and I take the debate from that point...
However, I choose to believe that there is no god. Why? Well, I simply find no need in worship or belief - it benefits me in no way. Its like drinking, as far as Im concerned - it might make others feel good, but it is not something I need or desire in order to live my life as a generous, loving human being.
Not to insult or degrade your philosophy, but what good does your belief that we, the universe and everything in it is God? To me, non-belief is the same as saying everything is God - nothing is God either.
2007-10-19 11:36:41 · answer #1 · answered by ? 5 · 1⤊ 0⤋
How can you be pantheist/atheist? That makes no sense. Either you believe in an all encompassing God, or you don't believe in any God. That's a contradiction in terms.
You just said I don't know what I'm talking about when YOU told someone else that a pantheist is someone who believes everything is God? Wow. You really are confused. In many ways. God bless you anyway.
2007-10-19 08:17:28 · answer #2 · answered by Linnie 4 · 0⤊ 1⤋
So you're a pantheist/atheist - which is basically someone who believes something 'like' a god started the universe off or is responsible for the origins of order in the universe, but you also don't believe in god or gods, and you want to know how someone can believe two things that are mutually exclusive?
You tell me, buddy.
2007-10-19 08:14:03 · answer #3 · answered by Leviathan 6 · 1⤊ 1⤋
How can you be an atheist? - With ease. There are many things in life which can fall into the same argument, yet you do not believe it all. Is god a special case - no. The concept of god adds nothing to the understanding of life - the universe and everything. So Occam's Razer applied - no god.
2007-10-19 08:16:10 · answer #4 · answered by Freethinking Liberal 7 · 1⤊ 0⤋
I too am a pantheist/atheist, and I feel there's about a 4% chance of a sentient supernatural being.
I could potentially consider this enough to say, "I'm not sure but there's probably no God besides the underlying foundation of the universe" which would make me a pantheist/ atheist/ agnostic.
2007-10-19 08:14:46 · answer #5 · answered by Eleventy 6 · 1⤊ 1⤋
It seems like a coin toss to me.
I'm agnostic/Deist--there may be a god, there may not, but it seems more likely (or, if I'm being honest, it's more comforting to think) that there is.
I would assume an atheist could feel the same way in the opposite direction: "Maybe there's a god, maybe not; but I don't think so, so I'm going to live as if there isn't ."
2007-10-19 08:14:07 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
The real question is, how can you not be in a world thats proven diseases aren't caused by demons, that science can heal the sick, and technology has surpassed anything in history even conceived of.
We no longer need a god. Unless you're too weak to handle reality as it is.
2007-10-19 08:20:55 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
There are two forms of atheism, neither of which assumes logic or reason:
1) Strong - belief that there is no deity
2) Weak - lack of belief in a deity
Weak atheism is compatible with agnosticism. You also misrepresent agnosticism, since it can be weak (we don't know yet) or strong (we cannot ever know).
2007-10-19 08:19:24 · answer #8 · answered by neil s 7 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Someone can believe that god doesn't exist while also accepting that it isn't a proven fact. Largely because you can't prove a negative. I consider myself full atheist, but I see where they're coming from.
2007-10-19 08:13:08 · answer #9 · answered by Bob C 3 · 2⤊ 0⤋
Roughly like this: I can't prove God exists/doesn't exist. But it sure seems like he doesn't.
Or more to the point: I can't prove God doesn't exist. But a God that doesn't appear to exist doesn't seem to have any relevance to my life.
2007-10-19 08:17:18 · answer #10 · answered by Doc Occam 7 · 1⤊ 0⤋