Cause this is one of the puritan beliefs, and I'm just not understanding it.
If you are born a sinner, no chance at converting unless you commit no sins in your life, (WHICH IS PHYSICALLY IMPOSSIBLE.) then how can you hope to go to heaven? Wouldnt it just mean that your born a slug, raised a slug, and die as a slug?
2007-10-19 03:52:06 · 11 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
btw: im an atheist.
2007-10-19 04:03:21 · update #1
make that a Penguinist.
2007-10-19 04:03:35 · update #2
It's like being born sick and commanded to be well.
Absurdity.
2007-10-19 03:58:18 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 2⤋
We are all born sinners, but conversion doesn't come from committing no sins in your life. The Bible is pretty clear that we are not saved by what we do (or don't do), but by believing God, and what He has said in His word about His son Jesus. Jesus did the good deeds already, and died to pay the penalty for our sins. If we do good, it is as a RESPONSE to God saving us, not as a cause.
We can change, but not under our own power. It is impossible for a slug, under its own power, to be anything other than a slug. But a little genetic engineering... change a few things here and there, and you might make it into a whole new animal! Ok, so we humans can't quite do that yet, but God made us- He can change us, change our spirits. This is what is known as being "born again", because our spirit is reborn. Our old self is crucified with Christ. God saves the sinner by liquidating him, and recreating him from the inside out in his immage. We still temporarily retain our physical form, and thus a natural drive to sin, but we now have His Spirit to counter that drive, and to redirect us back toward God should we ever give in to the drive to sin.
Sin is bred into us, but that is neither an excuse for sin or a barrier to overcomming it, in light of Christs sacrifice and ressurection, and the gift of His Holy Spirit. This is something only God can do for us, we merely respond to Him and surrender. It is not something we can achieve ourselves.
2007-10-19 11:11:16 · answer #2 · answered by The Link 4 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Yes, we are all born sinners or with a sinful nature. No we cannot change and become non-sinners, we all sin and will continue to sin no matter how hard we try not to! I KNOW that I will get into heaven because Jesus has covered my sin. That is why we need the blood of Christ! We cannot work off our sin, remove our sin, counteract our sin with good deeds or punishments, our sin is still there! The only thing we can do is accept the gift of God, which is the sacrifice of Jesus Christ, and try to live in His example. That is why I can hope for heaven and know that I will get there. It is not dependent upon me to earn my way in, it is my duty to accept that which is freely given.
2007-10-19 11:04:39 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
1. God indicates that even though we are born with an "Adamic" nature with it's proclivity to sin, we can resist sin (Genesis 4:7).
2. God gives us both good things which we abuse, and good laws which we break, and hold us accountable for so doing, meaning we must have a way to obey them.
3. God, who "spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all" (rm. 8:32), has "commandeth all men every where to repent" (Act 17:30), and believe on His Son, who "is the propitiation [perfect and final payment] for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world" (1 John 2:2).
4. Jesus said that after He would rose from the dead, " "I .. will draw all men unto me" (John 12:32).
5. People who do not repent do so because they love darkness more than light (Jn. 3:19-21), and are held accountable for that, and will be judged according to their words and works (Rev. 20:11-15), meaning that were not robots (nor slugs), but persons capable to resisting God or yielding to Him in love and obedience.
(Acts 3:19) "Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord;"
2007-10-19 11:12:49 · answer #4 · answered by www.peacebyjesus 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
1. Yes (Romans 3:23) all have sinned and are born sinners.
2. No, we cannot be perfect.That is why Jesus had to die. He paid the penalty for our sin.
3. By receiving him as the saving one & our lord, you will have eternal life (this is what the Bible teaches).
http://www.4laws.com/laws/english/pda/the-files/4laws-foldout.pdf
2007-10-19 10:59:41 · answer #5 · answered by Jeff- <3 God <3 people 5 · 3⤊ 0⤋
Your Born with a Messed Up SPIRIT.
Adam messed his up and passed that thing down to All of US.
Jesus is the Only One WHO can Recreate it (Born-Again, Saved).
That is why Jesus couldn't have an Earthly Father (Daddy)--that messed up spirit comes through the Males.
2007-10-19 10:59:17 · answer #6 · answered by maguyver727 7 · 3⤊ 0⤋
We all are born with a tendency to comit sins.. this is why we need God, only He can change our hearts and make us new human beings with a tendency to be holy.. God can do that if you let him to and you must want it.. If you could understand and believe what Jesus did for us you could get eternal life in heaven..
2007-10-19 10:57:09 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 3⤊ 1⤋
born a sinner saved by grace. We will never be perfect, we will never not sin.
2007-10-19 11:30:18 · answer #8 · answered by goodgirlabout2gobad 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
"born a sinner" is nonsense, clearly a mechanism of a mind control scheme that just happens to have the "only true" way out of the "problem" as defined.
it presumes that people inherently need to be controlled... and guess who appointed themselves as the controlers? The same people running the con.
2007-10-19 10:59:05 · answer #9 · answered by kent_shakespear 7 · 0⤊ 3⤋
I've been "sinning" ever since I achieved sentience...but before that...I have no memory of a conscience.
~atheist~
2007-10-19 11:03:14 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋