Someone here at R&S said that a 2 month old fetus is not a "child", therefore abortion is OK.?

Question

Do you agree to this idea? If you do, what would you say to a woman who had a natural miscarriage at the 2nd month of pregnancy and is grieving? Would you say "No big deal, it was not a child anyway" something like that?

I am trying to understand what is the difference between a 2 month old fetus for a woman who chooses to make an abortion from a woman who loves the baby from the day one...

The same person said that since the baby can't survive outside the womb, abortion is OK... Isn't it cruel? Is it OK to kill every vegetative form of life at our own will?

I ask all these questions because I am shocked...

Esoteric, if you are a man, I ask you do you know what is to be pregnant? Do you know what is having an abortion? By your statement, I can tell you are one of those guys that leave a woman when she is pregnant... would you?

Labgrrl, I know it is not a fetus yet. I was just using the same words the person did. It is an embryo, I am a woman and I had 4 children. You can call it the name you want, that doesn't change what I meant.

Kent, that "person" was a cat? I am sorry for your loss and I am happy you can have sentiments.

Pangel, I agree with you. Actually, what I fear the most is how banal abortion can become, like getting rid of a pimple. "Oooops, I am pregnant, I dont' want it, I was drunk, I was partying, I was irresponsible, well, let me get rid of this tumour because I have my college to think about..." You know that 98% of abortion is made by women who was simply not responsible enough to avoid the pregnancy, or just had fun with a non-supportive man, and ultimately she is under emotional pressure and hormone battle, not thinking properly... Those are the cases that I am more concerned... Each situation is a different situation and only God would judge, but choosing abortion for convenience or selfishness... in my point of view is a huge mistake that the person will have consequences one day.

Godbotnot, I've never been through that... I am not sure what I would do, but my spiritual belief tells me I would have the baby regardless. I would give the baby the chance to come to this world and make the rapist life something worthy.

auntb93, I am so sorry... I am sure it was not an easy decision. God bless you!

Matt J, miscarriage is a natural process though. It is God's will! It is like a heart attack, stroke, or whatever. I can't even grasp your concept of suicide here... Is the baby hanging himself at the umbilical cord?? I don't think so...

I'm Atheist, I totally agree with you...

Baptist, the morning after pill, for your information, the baby was not conceived yet. The sperm joins the egg after 48 hours after the sexual encounter. The morning after pill makes the woman hurry with her period, so that the spem finds nothing on the next day... No, it is not abortion...

Answer 1

Abortion is not "OK," but a last resort when necessary. As to the grieving, that takes place when you abort by a doctor's intervention as well as a spontaneous abortion, which is usually called a miscarriage

I had an abortion the summer before I was due to start college because I could see no sensible alternative, and because the people who were willing to pay for an abortion (the boy's parents) were unwilling to pay for any other option. But I grieved for my lost opportunity, and still regret that I never had a child, and so do not have grandchildren to amuse me in my old age. Someone to inherit my books and DVDs and my doll collection, my memorabilia, my story.

Answer 2

No. I believe it is "okay" before the foetus has developed into a baby. I don't understand your confusion about this. What exactly are you trying to pin down? I think an abortion is a medical procedure and if a woman has it every few months, provided it is within the first few weeks, fine. But what kind of woman would want to do that? It's not a particularly pleasant thing to go through. Anyone who required an abortion every few months would obviously need some form of psychiatric help. I'm sure that most women are fully capable of being responsible and not getting themselves pregnant - but guess what? I have a friend who was on the pill and used a condom, and still fell pregnant. Why? Obviously there was a slip up - maybe he didn't put it on in time. The pill is not 100% - you will still have the odd pregnancy here and there. And if Cherie Blair, the wife of the former prime minister of the UK, and a top barrister, can get her contraception wrong, so can the rest of us.

Answer 3

YOu just argued a great point for pro choice. Not all people believe that a 2 month fetus is a viable child as it cannot live outside the womb. That's why each woman has to make her own choices.

I had a miscarriage at 8 weeks and was devastated. I greived for weeks. My friend chose to have an abortion, and she made the decision. She dealt with it well.

There is a difference. If she had wanted the baby, she would've been upset at a miscarriage. She was responsible enough to say she wasn't able to properly care for the child. Also, since then, she has gone on to have 3 children after she graduated college, began a career, got married, and then had children.

Answer 4

An eight week fetus is indisputably not a child. Natural terminations - miscarriages - are exceptionally common in the first trimester (13 weeks). So the biggest abortionist is god (or more correctly, the mother's natural mechanisms for producing a healthy child).

And no-one, absolutely no-one, says that abortion is "OK". At best it's a necessary evil. Infinitesimally few women take it for granted. It's always traumatic. But it may be necessary.

The mother filled with joy at the blue strip on her pregnancy test after 20 days is no different from a woman dreading an unwanted pregnancy. Each is concerned for themselves - not the unborn child. And that's the truth.

Answer 5

So many would be in the shock of their life, and shake in their shoes to find out the truth that all these innocent babies that were dismembered and destroyed are fine in heaven in the care of God, Jesus Christ and the angels. They are being care for, and have been giving the abilities to walk, eat with tiny teeth, and they're growing and being taught the oracles of God.
Since these babies were originally a thought of God and God had a plan for them....God won't lose them, because God don't lose babies....He still has a plan for them.....it's never over with God.
Since a mother never stops thinking about how it would be if she had her child, and loves it. These babies some day will meet their mothers as they too always feel their mothers love, so they too love their mothers, and the mothers will hold their babies in heaven.
These babies enjoy the many angels that care for them, they are like clowns for the kids, as the angels have the ability to change their hair color for the kids. The babies and children have toys that change colors, their own colorful rooms, with stars, rainbows and other things that appear to be, or are real. The best of everything is in heaven....it is like earth, but so much better in every way. The abortion babies are being care for, but we have to some how stop this killing of these poor defenseless children-babies.

Answer 6

My personal feeling is that when a fetus has a human brain pattern (mid 2nd trimester), abortion becomes immoral. When it cannot feel pain, it is not.

I am in favor of birth control and early abortion on demand to negate the need (or desire) for later term abortions.

As for "vegetative life forms," remember that insurance comapnies are paying for the upkeep of these people, and as a result, someone who WILL recover with proper treatment may be denied that threatment. So, yea, I think disconnecting the permanently vegetative from life support is the moral thing to do.

Answer 7

Why do Christians equate abortions with birth control?

There are a lot of reasons that abortions happen besides people not using birth control and just running around getting knocked up so they can have an abortion.

Some are for health. some are because the pill does not always work. Some are the result of rape cases.

And whether it is 3 months, 2 months or conception, at some point it is or is not a human.
Not every egg or every sperm is sacred.

Answer 8

I am pro choice babe
but I do not like to hear about how babies are no more than a cluster of cells or even worse when I hear that the baby can be compared to a growth that simply needs cut out
sometimes there are reasons that a woman cannot have the baby , we shouldnt judge that
but it is not a cold clinical thing .... and I dont know any woman who has had an abortion that would see it in such a way
even if it is days , weeks old .... it is not an easy thing to go through for anyone

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yes every case is different and should be looked at individually
that is why I am pro choice though
but there should be new laws concerning abortion in regards to reason and term
there cannot be one law to cover every situation
that is where I feel the abortion laws are wrong and the reason I cannot agree with anti abortionists

Answer 9

I say the morning after pill is killing also, yea you might not know if you are pregnant but your intent is to not be pregnant. It doesn't matter if the child is 1 second old, there was a chance that the child was going to be born into this world. But people don't think about taking ones life because we are acustomed to seeing with our own eyes. What I mean by that is if we saw the child we would have different opinions, but since this person can't see this child than it doesn't really matter wether it lives or dies. Could this quote on quote parent be able to kill the child if they were lets say 3 years old? I don't think so, now some can because we see it on the news but those people aren't normal.

Answer 10

OK good questions asked. No, its also considers as Killing, Cos God created All living things in this world. Hence, if you kill them, you are against God will and become a natural killer. Even in a miscarriage, that poor mother will have dreams and quilt forever in her mind, right ?