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IN the bible we learn angels had free will, and they knew god existed because they were around him, So why cant he show all of humanity, if knowing god doesnt take away your free will ?


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2007-10-18 22:10:06 · 22 answers · asked by YO Y 2 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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He could if he wanted to that is if you believe in the one and only God.

Suppossedly the bible is all the revelation we need. and we are to just blindly accept that as absolute truth.
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2007-10-18 22:16:04 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 2 1

How is this; human brains cannot cope with the infinite as they do not have to ability to absorb all knowledge; God is infinite so to have too much awareness of God would blow our little brains to bits. It is not about free will it is about capacity. If you accept the concept of Angels then they are somewhere along the spectrum of enlightenment and therefore are able to deal with more than we can but still will not know all of God as that would still be more than even they can cope with. Eventually we will all develop enough capacity to know some of God, indeed there is one school of thought that suggests the prophets were representatives of what we could and can deal with safely up to now. What is free will anyway? you make a decision and then discover that because you lacked the complete picture it was not what you would have done if you had known. Is ignorance alone lack of free will? Worth a thought.

2007-10-19 11:22:07 · answer #2 · answered by Samuel 3 · 0 0

Be careful about that third of the host of heaven stuff. The bible does not describe that. If you take the lines from Revelation it talks about the stars being swept from Heaven.
The war between the angels is mostly a Mormon story.

Now about free will among angels, or rebellion. Think it though. If God is all powerful and created the Angels to be under his command are you saying God failed.
Every time you make a claim about God's power or supremacy and then have him screw up you are contradicting yourself.
God can not be all knowing and be surprised, for example.

Read your bible and watch the contradictions pop up.
When God gets surprised, upset, gets haggled with or needs to ask questions. When God is describes as being in one location, as searching or as travelling.
These things show God as not being omnipotent, omniscient or omnipresent. They are self contradiction. You really can not have it both ways.

Try this idea. If God created everything then God created Satan. If Satan rebelled then why not just have God poof him back out of existence.

2007-10-18 22:33:47 · answer #3 · answered by Y!A-FOOL 5 · 0 1

First of all where does the Bible say angels have free will? That is not a Bible teaching, or a Christian teaching. If you read your Bible showing man tha tGod is real is exaclty what God did. Ever hear of the parting of the red sea? Ever hear of Jesus the Son of God coming to earth? God has over the ages shown humanity clearly His existance.

2007-10-18 22:47:27 · answer #4 · answered by oldguy63 7 · 0 1

I could answer you, but I get this feeling that no answer will be acceptable to because I am only a mortal man like yourself and I do not have the abiltiy to show you truth. We are his family, we are the descendents of angels who were in heaven at one time with him. There is heaven for eternity but there is only life for man for 60-70 years if we are lucky. Therefore my belief is that life is just a temporary gift given to us by God but eventually we all have to go back home to heaven. So we are not necessarily on Earth to believe or worship which is why many do not, we are here to live and experience things we could not in heaven like 'material life' such as women and cars, etc. There is a cycle of man is predetermined just as it is in the cosmos. Basically life starts with a chemical reaction but the overall purpose of the reaction is to reach a state of peace, much like the life of a man. You and I have to go through some things before we figure that things usually end up back where it started, and that is it will all come back to a family of our own because that is the peace we seek. You understand relativity and Einstein? Then you have to realize that the time we have on Earth is almost nothing considering the age of the universe. So if that is true, then I have concluded that this life time is just temporary, just one brief moment in time and we are passing through. Therefore showing humanity the truth would spoil his gift. Basically like Santa Claus, your parents were Santa Claus the whole time, but you did'nt know, if you knew it would have not been as fun, eventually you found out and then life was down hill from there.My basis for this is my own thought and the Book of Ecclesiastes. good day

2007-10-18 22:47:52 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

angels are 1) not of this earth and 2) not "human"

while they may have had free will -- they still messed up when they stepped that iota of space away from God.

I'm sorry you awre like doubting Thomas and feel you have to touch something to believe. I know God, I see Him & feel Him many times throughout each day. Why does He have t show all humanity in the manner of which you speak - He's with us everywhere and yet people still spit at His name. Blessed are those who believe but have not seen.

2007-10-18 22:43:01 · answer #6 · answered by Marysia 7 · 0 1

Well, partly I didn't answer it because I didn't see it. I have, happily, other things to do than read questions here. Even if I had seen it, though, I wouldn't be able to give you what I consider a good answer. I don't know how things work with angels. I do know that Scripture makes it clear that faith is important to God. I don't know why. Given that, though, He obviously can't "show all of humanity". It might not interfere with free will, but it surely would with faith.

2007-10-18 22:22:04 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

We were apart of the Hosts of Heaven. The angels were/are apart of our family. We knew God...some Choose to follow some didn't. We all had free will. We choose to come here...we choose to live this life...we choose to take this test for the opportunity to become more like our Father in Heaven. Living by faith is part of this test. Seeking the Spirit is part of this test.

If God were to make it known without any doubt what so ever of his existence...than those who are not yet ready to deal with that knowledge or those who have not been prepared to receive it in the flesh (after all, we and the angles lived with him in spirit form not bodily form) will be denied their opportunity to understand. Remember, the flesh is weak.

2007-10-18 22:28:35 · answer #8 · answered by LDS~Tenshi~ 5 · 0 1

Because if He did reveal Himself, all of humanity would become more accountable. God revealed Himself to the Israelites when He used Moses to deliver them from bondage and parted the Red sea, and showed them all manner of marvelous miracles... and what did the people do right after this? Turned their backs on Him and worshipped the gold calf! God was so angered by this act of supreme unbelief and rebellion that He was of the mind to utterly destroy them all (in spite of His promise to Abraham to preserve his seed) and it was only due to the intercession of Moses that God did not destroy them all.

If God reveals Himself to all today what would we do? Repent and accept God's commandments? Or rebel and continued to do our own thing, and be fit for nothing but destruction? From what I often see on this board the latter would inevitably be the choice.

God wants us to reach out to Him in faith, and those who do, with real intent and all their hearts, indeed do have God revealed unto them. I am not talking about warm fuzzies or burning the bosom nonsense, but real and profound manifestations, on the same order as Moses and the burning bush. I personally have, as well as many other sound minded individuals. This way only those who desire to seek God on HIS terms, have Him revealed unto them, and while they are more accountable, they are not damned on the spot like the Israelites were at the time of Moses, because they seek to obey His commandments.

If God were to make bare His arm at this time, that would in effect take away our free agency. We would either have to accept Him or be damned. We would loose our freedom of choice. Would you honestly want that?

2007-10-18 22:49:28 · answer #9 · answered by Technoman 3 · 0 1

Simply because Christian lived by faith and not by sight. Not like in Old Testament era; where God will talk to you directly from sky (and that time, you better believe it is God's voices).

2007-10-18 22:16:59 · answer #10 · answered by Vic 2 · 0 1

Not all angles had free will is one option.

But the root of your question is this: God did reveal Himself to humanity. We've chosen time and time again to reject Him.

2007-10-18 22:38:19 · answer #11 · answered by capitalctu 5 · 0 1

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