Sir Winston Churchill - circa 1899:
"Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities, but the influence of the religion paralyzes the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step."
Like practioners of "civil disobedience" before me, I am always seeking to persuade non-muslims not to apply the doctrines of tolerance so common in the west, to those who so plainly refuse to return the same (Islamists).
Questions like this always get the proverbial "I know a Muslim and hes not like that" responses. Whats so painful about reading responses like that is the lack of critical thinking skills so prevelant therein.
2007-10-18
13:36:10
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If I meet a cordial Shinto, I will not then leap to the conclusion that Shintoism is a beign religion, of no harm to the world. Why is it that people do this with Islam? Every single person I have ever met who has apologized for Islam, has also never studied it.
2007-10-18
13:37:31 ·
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Stop for a second and consider that. First, I seriously invite you to take this test literally. Have a couple easy question to ask people, to determine if they have studied Islam. Take an informal poll of all people who dismiss Islamic war everywhere in the world...see how many have a working knowledge.
2007-10-18
13:39:13 ·
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Assuming you arrive to the same conclusion I have, then ask yourself whats significant about this? Why is it that literally everyone who apologizes for Islamic war everywhere in the world, also hasnt studied it in any depth?
Notice how broad my claim is...I include liberal professors...i include everyone...if you study islam in any depth..I promise you...no matter what you politics, you will come to the same conclusion as I. My point is, the facts speak very plainly if you just get off your lazy ***.
2007-10-18
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Well, its fairly acceptable, after all I and some people are all in favor of freedom of expression. It is your privilege to disagree with the teaching of Islam in general and in practice since that is your own opinion, but you mustn't intolerant and despise Muslim who does tolerate other people (especially towards non-muslim in this case) and has not committed anything illegal or wrong.
2007-10-19 08:27:08
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answered by Impiger 4
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Truth Seeker, you and Sir Winston Churchill are correct. It's not easy for me to say that. I strongly believe in freedom, especially freedom of religion, but I also believe in being smart. Not everything is worthy of respect and tolerance and islam has proved time and time again that it's not worthy. What we can do about that though is the tough question. I have to say that I am sick and tired of people comparing Christianity to islam. Did Christianity have a dark past at times? Yes and Christians admit that. Have Muslims ever done the same? No!! I should add that I believe the Crusades were incredibly necessary, politically and spiritually. Christians saved Europe from being taken over by the savage Muslims. Today, no one is doing that!
God Bless.
2007-10-18 15:18:50
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answered by Anonymous
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I know what you're saying... this is a difficult subject to address indeed because of the fact that even though the muslims who live in the US and many other civilized countries don't practice their faith like they should, the fact remains that the religion in its entirety is truly an evil religion (for those that follow the teachings 100%) and this is evident primarily from the actions of the extremists (who for the most part are merely following what they are told from the Q'uran etc)
People can practice what they will as long as they do not perform any criminal acts. While I don't agree with what a lot of people do, as a Christian, being forceful rarely solves anything. What the muslims in countries like the US are doing is basically taking Islam and creating a "peaceful" version of it that is a big offshot of the true Islam. True Islam is the real danger, and what we should be trying to eradicate.
2007-10-18 13:45:51
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answered by Xan 3
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Churchill was an incredible "critical" thinker! He was SPOT ON with regards to the Soviet Union! And he's SPOT ON about this, too.
What happened to the old saying, "Your rights END where MY rights begin"? "Tolerance" is the modern equivalent of appeasement in WWII... it did not work THEN, it won't work NOW! Look... Hilter "promised" to leave eastern Europe alone, so what did he do? He invaded Czechoslovakia!! So much for appeasement!
Have a blessed day.
2007-10-18 15:12:21
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answered by wyomugs 7
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An interesting question. If one is disabused of the notion that religions somehow reflect a true and legitimate relationship with a deity...If one concludes that religion could just be a way of psychologically apprehending the world...then why COULDN'T a "religion" be a vessel for intolerance, violence, even irrationality?
Indeed, it could. And if this were the case, intolerance would be both warranted and rational.
If one insists that religions reflect the revelations and desires of a deity, then one is stuck. Are we to respect his manifest wishes? Or are we to rebel against a deity?
We cheat, of course, by saying that "our" religion is true, while others are false. But then why tiptoe around and be nice to the guys betting on the wrong horse?
2007-10-18 13:50:32
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answered by Jas 2
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Unfortunately, history (INCLUDING childhood development) shows us that the ONLY way to deal with a bully is head-on. There can be NO peace by trying to walk around and avoid a bully.
It is my sincere belief that the true nature of islam is hatred, violence and intolerance. Further, it certainly seems that islam encourages its followers to use deceit and deception to fend off warranted criticism.
As such, islam presents itself as a bully. A bully in magnitude that mankind has never had to face before.
Pray that muslims may come to know the love and mercy of the one true God.
2007-10-18 13:46:02
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answered by Anonymous
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You present a good question. I have felt this way for over a year now. The bleeding heart tolerance is going to backfire. I think this person makes a very good argument also:
http://www.norcalblogs.com/buying/
More than just tolerance of a religion, it has become a Clash between a Civilization of the Middle Ages and Civilizations of the 21st Century.
2007-10-18 13:44:29
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answered by Anonymous
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You'll have to forgive us. We base this prejudice on the fact that ALL terrorists use islam to hide behind while they commit atrocities that would make Caligula cringe. It is difficult to tolerate those who scream death to US infidels and burn the American flag. Were we to do the same to them in their countries, we would be beheaded with a dull rusty machete. Yes, there may very well be one or two Muslims who are not murdering thugs, but I have never met, seen or heard of any.
2007-10-18 13:41:32
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answered by Anonymous
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They have proved through many centuries to be no more waring or cruel than Christians - especially Christians as intolerant as you.
Islam is at the seat of modern civilization and, like the Romans, had great empires while Europe was a bunch of gang-like tribes of Vandals, Goths etc.
Muslim society is difficult for the West to understand, especially intolerant, vicious Christian fundamentalist war mongers.
2007-10-18 13:54:41
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answered by Anonymous
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Islam is not a pleasant religion but then if you read the Bible neither is Christianity in its fundamental form. Or Judaism. It would be difficult to be intolerant of Islam without also being intolerant of nearly every other religion. For a non-Islamic believer it would also be hypocritical to be intolerant of Islam, for the same reasons.
I don't believe in religion but it's difficult to try and eliminate something 90% of the world holds dear. I'm not perfect myself.
I say instead we concentrate on the criminals, and those who use religions (such as Islam) to advocate crime.
2007-10-18 13:47:17
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answered by Citizen Justin 7
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