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Question

How can the bible be real if:

1. It says the world is a circle
2. It says rain doesn't come from clouds (I think it said crystals?)
3. It also says something about an arch or something similar covering the world, though pictures say there is not?

Answer 1

Why not look at some real evidence instead of Anti-God, Anti-Bible propaganda:

Fulfilled Prophecy: Evidence for the Reliability of the Bible
by Hugh Ross, Ph.D.
Unique among all books ever written, the Bible accurately foretells specific events-in detail-many years, sometimes centuries, before they occur. Approximately 2500 prophecies appear in the pages of the Bible, about 2000 of which already have been fulfilled to the letter—no errors. (The remaining 500 or so reach into the future and may be seen unfolding as days go by.) Since the probability for any one of these prophecies having been fulfilled by chance averages less than one in ten (figured very conservatively) and since the prophecies are for the most part independent of one another, the odds for all these prophecies having been fulfilled by chance without error is less than one in 102000 (that is 1 with 2000 zeros written after it)!

God is not the only one, however, who uses forecasts of future events to get people's attention. Satan does, too. Through clairvoyants (such as Jeanne Dixon and Edgar Cayce), mediums, spiritists, and others, come remarkable predictions, though rarely with more than about 60 percent accuracy, never with total accuracy. Messages from Satan, furthermore, fail to match the detail of Bible prophecies, nor do they include a call to repentance.

The acid test for identifying a prophet of God is recorded by Moses in Deuteronomy 18:21-22. According to this Bible passage (and others), God's prophets, as distinct from Satan's spokesmen, are 100 percent accurate in their predictions. There is no room for error.

As economy does not permit an explanation of all the Biblical prophecies that have been fulfilled, what follows in a discussion of a few that exemplify the high degree of specificity, the range of projection, and/or the "supernature" of the predicted events. Readers are encouraged to select others, as well, and to carefully examine their historicity.


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(1) Some time before 500 B.C. the prophet Daniel proclaimed that Israel's long-awaited Messiah would begin his public ministry 483 years after the issuing of a decree to restore and rebuild Jerusalem (Daniel 9:25-26). He further predicted that the Messiah would be "cut off," killed, and that this event would take place prior to a second destruction of Jerusalem. Abundant documentation shows that these prophecies were perfectly fulfilled in the life (and crucifixion) of Jesus Christ. The decree regarding the restoration of Jerusalem was issued by Persia's King Artaxerxes to the Hebrew priest Ezra in 458 B.C., 483 years later the ministry of Jesus Christ began in Galilee. (Remember that due to calendar changes, the date for the start of Christ's ministry is set by most historians at about 26 A.D. Also note that from 1 B.C. to 1 A.D. is just one year.) Jesus' crucifixion occurred only a few years later, and about four decades later, in 70 A.D. came the destruction of Jerusalem by Titus.

(Probability of chance fulfillment = 1 in 10 to the 5th power.)*


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(2) In approximately 700 B.C. the prophet Micah named the tiny village of Bethlehem as the birthplace of Israel's Messiah (Micah 5:2). The fulfillment of this prophecy in the birth of Christ is one of the most widely known and widely celebrated facts in history.

(Probability of chance fulfillment = 1 in 10 to the 5th power.)


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(3) In the fifth century B.C. a prophet named Zechariah declared that the Messiah would be betrayed for the price of a slave—thirty pieces of silver, according to Jewish law-and also that this money would be used to buy a burial ground for Jerusalem's poor foreigners (Zechariah 11:12-13). Bible writers and secular historians both record thirty pieces of silver as the sum paid to Judas Iscariot for betraying Jesus, and they indicate that the money went to purchase a "potter's field," used—just as predicted—for the burial of poor aliens (Matthew 27:3-10).

(Probability of chance fulfillment = 1 in 10 to the 11th power.)


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(4) Some 400 years before crucifixion was invented, both Israel's King David and the prophet Zechariah described the Messiah's death in words that perfectly depict that mode of execution. Further, they said that the body would be pierced and that none of the bones would be broken, contrary to customary procedure in cases of crucifixion (Psalm 22 and 34:20; Zechariah 12:10). Again, historians and New Testament writers confirm the fulfillment: Jesus of Nazareth died on a Roman cross, and his extraordinarily quick death eliminated the need for the usual breaking of bones. A spear was thrust into his side to verify that he was, indeed, dead.

(Probability of chance fulfillment = 1 in 10 to the 13th power.)


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(5) The prophet Isaiah foretold that a conqueror named Cyrus would destroy seemingly impregnable Babylon and subdue Egypt along with most of the rest of the known world. This same man, said Isaiah, would decide to let the Jewish exiles in his territory go free without any payment of ransom (Isaiah 44:28; 45:1; and 45:13). Isaiah made this prophecy 150 years before Cyrus was born, 180 years before Cyrus performed any of these feats (and he did, eventually, perform them all), and 80 years before the Jews were taken into exile.

(Probability of chance fulfillment = 1 in 10 to the 15th power.)


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(6) Mighty Babylon, 196 miles square, was enclosed not only by a moat, but also by a double wall 330 feet high, each part 90 feet thick. It was said by unanimous popular opinion to be indestructible, yet two Bible prophets declared its doom. These prophets further claimed that the ruins would be avoided by travelers, that the city would never again be inhabited, and that its stones would not even be moved for use as building material (Isaiah 13:17-22 and Jeremiah 51:26, 43). Their description is, in fact, the well-documented history of the famous citadel.

(Probability of chance fulfillment = 1 in 10 to the 9th power.)

(see below for a more thorough list)
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(7) The exact location and construction sequence of Jerusalem's nine suburbs was predicted by Jeremiah about 2600 years ago. He referred to the time of this building project as "the last days," that is, the time period of Israel's second rebirth as a nation in the land of Palestine (Jeremiah 31:38-40). This rebirth became history in 1948, and the construction of the nine suburbs has gone forward precisely in the locations and in the sequence predicted.

(Probability of chance fulfillment = 1 in 10 to the 18th power.)

Answer 2

1. It says the world is a circle

Because it was written over 2000 years ago, and people had NO education or knowledge of the earth whatsoever. It never mentions North America, as it wasnt discovered yet, which makes sense. It makes more sense if it was written by men around 2000 years ago, if you apply the facts.

2. It says rain doesn't come from clouds (I think it said crystals?)

Don't know.

3. It also says something about an arch or something similar covering the world, though pictures say there is not?

People were gullible enough to believe anything back then, so it makes sense it's in the Bible.

Answer 3

1.) Bible doesn't say the world is a circle - you can use that scripture all you want, but there's not absolute assurance it's saying the world is a circle

2.) In the times before the flood it does say water came from the ground, but when God brought the flood He brought it from the sky.

3.) It's believed that before the flood there was an arch that covered the world that blocked much of the harmful UV rays of the sun, thus the reason they lived to be SO old.

Answer 4

actually the BIBLE says the earth is round ,it was scientists of old times and other people too i think who said that the earth is a circle . the BIBLE might say round but not circle.

and obviously rains come from the clouds even people of old times knew that . and what arch are you talking about.

and keep in mind that we don't see the spiritual world there is lots of stuff going on that you don't see.

maybe even in the very room you are in now.

Answer 5

i notice how many mindless people automatically believe you...

Crystals in the bible? get real

the world is round...the bible did not say how many dimensions were involved....the bible did better than the scientists at the time....

you aren't even sure of what you are saying....so why do you bother asking (criticizing)?

Answer 6

The Bible is real because it talks about the real God. All of your examples simply show that the people had a limited knowledge of how the world worked at the time. God uses our limited knowledge (we are still limited today) to reveal the REAL TRUTH about the REAL God.

Answer 7

Where in the Bible does it say these things? Which book, which chapter and which verse?

Answer 8

1: It doesn't say that.
2: It doesn't say that.
3: It doesn't say that.

Why are atheists so sadly ignorant?

Answer 9

I read it as a spiritual guide full of alegory inspired by God but written by humans, instead of an infallible science book.

Answer 10

Please read a bible and do some reserch before asking a question, I mean after you expect us to do the samething. The bible says none of the above.

Answer 11

what Bible are you referring to?