the apostles creed says Jesus will come back to judge the living and the dead so what is with purgatory?

Question

we dont die and go to heaven you say it your selves every week in your church

Answer 1

Purgatory means that the saved souls are purified from all sins and faults before they enter heaven, and are made holy. You don't have to think of it like a dramatic, physical place as Dante (not the Church) famously pictured it.

I suppose the protestants don't think you keep your sins and faults when (if) you enter heaven? So, maybe the difference is smaller than you think ...

Answer 2

You must remeber that Purgatory is ONLY FOR THE SAVED. It is NOT a second chance, and it is NOT a third place. You could say it is the "doormat" in front of heaven's door where you have to wipe your feet before you go in. (Poor analogy, but you get the point.)

The Catechism states:

CCC 1030 - All who die in God's grace and friendship, but still imperfectly purified, are indeed assured of their eternal salvation; but after death they undergo purification, so as to achieve the holiness necessary to enter the joy of heaven.

CCC 1031 - The Church gives the name Purgatory to this final purification of the elect, which is entirely different from the punishment of the damned. The Church formulated her doctrine of faith on Purgatory especially at the Councils of Florence and Trent. The tradition of the Church, by reference to certain texts of Scripture, speaks of a cleansing fire: Cf. 1 Cor 3:15; 1 Pet 1:7.

http://www.usccb.org/catechism/text/pt1sect2chpt3art12.htm#1029

Answer 3

I don't get the incompatibility of the Jugement and Purgatory

,which is a state of soul in which the saved are cleansed of lesser sins which they have not permitted the Blood of Christ to wash or grievous sins confessed and regretted but not fully converted from and the "temporal punishments" or the repurcussions,residues,effects and sinful attitudues left from our refusal to yield completely to God's grace and the merits of Christ's All-Sufficient Sacrifice.

Purgatory is perfectly compatible with the Commmunion of Saints of the Creeds

Purgatory is a passing state before we experience the Last Judgement

Answer 4

Those who have died in God's grace, but are not yet perfect go through a process by which the person is made perfect in love through the grace of God. This process is called Purgatory.

Purgatory is not a place but the means by which those who have died in Christ get to heaven. Dante pictured Purgatory as the mountain that we must climb to get to Heaven. No one stays on the mountain forever.

When Jesus returns to judge the living and the dead, Purgatory will no longer be necessary. All souls in Purgatory will be judged and will be brought into eternal life.

Answer 5

a prayer I say states: " He descent to the lifeless the place He comforted the saints of the old regulation and led captivity captive. Taken from The 30 days NOVENA PRAYER TO THS BLESSED VIRGIN MARY. the e book author is Janice T Connell. I in simple terms had to renowned if possibly the old testomony had a explanation for Jesus to try this till now ascending into Heaven to be with Almighty God the daddy. Any Clues?? Why might we are saying this in a prayer ,if there is no which potential of it??

Answer 6

As you can see, the Roman Catholic doctrine of Purgatory is completely based on a book in the Apocrypha (meaning
"hidden works"). These books were read by many for some historical and religious instructional use, but not even the Jews accepted them as inspired by God, and have the canonical standing that Genesis to Malachi have in the OT. Nor did the Jews promote this teaching to pray for the dead. And, you won't find it in the Jewish traditions today either. 2 Maccabees, one among many listed in the Apocrypha, gives an account of people praying for their dead, so that they may be forgiven of their sin.

The doctrine is based on the church's authority and tradition, using this account as their proof text (but, they really don't need one, since whatever the church leaders declare as true doctrine is enough). And by this doctrine, many here misinterpret passages in the NT, by taking them out of context, and imposing a different meaning that supports this RC doctrine on the text than what it actually says.

Example:

Assertion: Roman Catholics say that since the Corinthian church members believed in baptizing for the dead (1 Corinthians 15:29), that they must have been practicing orthodox teachings, which makes the strong inference that they must have been praying for their dead as well.

Counter-response: In 1 Corinthians 15, the Apostle Paul uses for argument sake, one incorrect teaching in the Corinthian church that some were following and performing, that is undergoing baptism for their dead, in order to get across to his Corinthian readers the critical nature of believing that their is a resurrection from the dead, since some were given another incorrect teaching (and much more serious one at that) that resurrection from the dead does not and will not continue to occur. Remember, it was this church that was so split by what leaders they were chosing to follow (1 Corinthians 1:10-17). So there must have been many different teachings as well, some of these were inevitably incorrect. Well, the Apostle Paul had his work cut out for him, having to even use one false teaching to show their inconsistency in believing another one!

Assertion: Anywhere the NT uses the example of those being in prison, put in prison, or threatened to be placed there, Roman Catholic teaches that these are spiritual analogies or allegories for the necessity of time served in purgatory for some, in order to deal with the possibility of a believer's impenitance and remaining unconfessed sins.

Counter-response: This is forced on the NT text at hand, such as in 1 Peter 3:18-19. It is clear here that it wasn't until Christ paid the price for our sins with His life, could those who died believing before Him were then set free from the grave, and not in any purgatory. This is supported by Ephesians 4:8-10.

Assertion: By their errant interpretation of Colossians 1:24, where the Apostle Paul is wrongly thought to be saying that he must go through te process of penance, confession, and the sacraments to stay in a salvific mode, Christ's death on the cross was sufficient to pay only for one's freedom from their original sin via application of the ordinance of baptism, but the sacerdotal system of the church needs to take over from there for further remission of any sins committed after that for anyone. Therefore, the logical necessity of a need for purgatory for those who have remaining sins to deal with.

And, as you say, the Apostle's Creed (by the way, many Catholic groups recite the Nicene Creed instead) is accepted as church doctrine, but these both became official doctrine way before this incorrect OT canon list was officially accepted by the Roman Catholic church at the Council of Chalcedon in the 4th century AD. So, they don't see it as contradictory, but believe that this is just a more descriptive of afterlife events, that these creeds don't mention.

Answer 7

I'm Christian and I believe these are all images and metaphors and that what we think of as a judgment will never happen and that purgatory is a state of existence rather than a place.

Answer 8

the way i undestand it purgatory is where the dead are waiting now for the return of jesus...this may not square with what the bible says i really do not know

Answer 9

Purgatory is a false doctrine. It is not found in the Bible. There is no such place.

Answer 10

Purgatory is a devil's lie!!!