Do any of you regard atheism as such an absolute truth that you honestly cannot fully understand God?

Question

This question is thanks to Hoosier Daddy, who turned it around on me on my last question!

Your thoughts?

Answer 1

The 'God' concept is not hard to understand: fictional, sadistic, immoral, sky bully. Like Hitler, except not real.

Answer 2

Most Atheists come from a religious background, which refutes that belief.

Personally I used to be a born again that 'felt' God, so I think I have a pretty good grip on understanding what it is all about.

Christians will say I am wrong because they have to in order to maintain belief, but most Atheists that worked their way out of a religious belief system did so, because they finally got an unbiased pragmatic understanding of God.

Sentinels statement that Atheism has no foundation in truth, is misleading because it assumes that religion does, however how can such a moving target be deemed as 'truth'. My guess is that he believes that only Mormons have the 'truth' foundation, and that is a faith based belief, and we all know how many faiths there are.

Answer 3

That seems more like the agnostic position to me.

For various reasons (often depending on the individual) atheism outright deny's or is simply not concerned with God's existence.

I think the heart of the question is: Do you really regard atheism as such an absolute truth? Is the position really infallible?

Answer 4

I do not consider atheism to be an absolute truth; I could be wrong about all the experiences (brain in a jar) that I've had, or there could be a being we would consider a god that we don't know about, or there could be one some day.

As far as fully understanding God, he is described discordantly through many many sources....and none of them could actually describe the extent of what he is supposed to be. There is no way to fully understand God, whether he's real or fictional, there's no way.

Answer 5

I understand "God" quite well. That is why I don't believe it exists.
but the idea that atheism is a belief system is totally wrong.

The difference in not believing that something exists happens to be different from holding a solid absolute belief in its nonexistence.
I have no reason to believe bigfoot exists. It is likely a total hoax. Looking at the "evidence" i would definitely be extremely sceptical. But, if I happened to shoot one and had the body to take into a biologist or zoologist that would be a bit different and I might have to revise my opinion on the existence of bigfoot.
Now lets say we are not able to have the body in our own care, not even able to see it. I then need to start analysing the testamonials claming bigfoot is real.
So I need to know if the people making the claim are reliable, are they trained, do they have any interest in conducting a hoax. Some old drunk sleeping under a bridge with mental problems might not be very reliable. Some sideshow artist claiming to have Bigfoot frozen into a block of ice and charging ten dollars a view is a bit dubious.
A scientifically trained specialist working as a professional might be more reliable. A community of trained people with equal access to the evidence critcizing each others work might be better. Especially if their careers depend upon their honesty.
They are still able to be hoaxed though and still can make mistakes.
One other question is, does what they are saying sound reasonable. We are talking about bigfoot. There have been other rare animals discovered recently. Maybe Bigfoot exists, but it is so unlikely that I am going to need something pretty serious to convince me.

Now about God. The people claiming God exists can present no evidence of God's existence. The claims are contradictory to say the least. Nobody has even provided a proper definition of what God is, or a description. The people claiming God exists have no real training to qualify them, and they all have serious conflicts of interest in having the clam accepted. Some of them have been mentally ill. Access to what they claim to be evidence is restricted, and their claims sound unreasonable, even delusional. They appeal to arguments of authority on the bases of a collection of assorted writings collected over centuries that are of dubious provenance. They appeal to circular arguments and other logical fallacies as arguments. Other freely available evidence contradicts their claims. They want me to pay them money based on their claims.
Should I believe. Why?

I remain extremely dubious of God's existence. Bring me some evidence, or demonstrate a solid proof.
Then I will consider changing my opinion, because at the moment I think Bigfoot, or The Invisible Pink unicorn has just as much likelyhood of existing as God does.

Thank you for your time.

Answer 6

Currently, I do regard it as the truth. But if anyone presented me with objective evidence to support their claim, I'd certainly reconsider. I'm not that close-minded. I'm always open to the possibility that I could be wrong, and anyone who is not is being intellectually dishonest with themselves, regardless of their religious beliefs.

I just find atheism to be the logical conclusion. I don't assert that I'm right 100%. But I do think it's the best position to be in. It's not denial, but lack of belief.

DC: I find it ironic that you're judging a whole group of people that you don't even belong to. Like I said, atheism isn't about denial or "rebelling against the 'rules'." We don't find any compelling evidence for us to believe these rules came from a deity in the first place.

Answer 7

That's kind of strangely worded. Do I believe that atheism is the absolute truth? Yes. However, I believe that I understand god. I understand that he was created by man to fill in the gaps in their lives & knowledge. Some people need "him" and some don't. I am the latter.

Answer 8

No, I see it as a search for knowledge and the truth. If that truth turns out to be that there is a God, then so be it. But until I get there I will not believe in something so intangible and undefined when all the evidence points in the other direction

Answer 9

"Absolute truth" is the realm of the religious. I don't believe in absolute truths at all. "Truth" is based on our understanding of our reality. That can change as our understanding changes. If there were some evidence of a deity, I would have to re-evaluate my stance on atheism. Since there isn't, I truly believe that gods do not exist. Like I said, that understanding can change, but I doubt it will.

Finally,... I'd like to add that you are smokin' hot!!!
:)

Answer 10

in my opinion, atheism is for people that are scared to acknowledge the fact that God is real and the reprecussion for sin is death. im not trying to say that i am almighty nor am i trying to pass judgement on anyone, this is just the way that i feel. i grew up in the church and there are things that cannot be explained with science and mathmatics. the only other possible answer is that a divine being had something to do with it. and i know that i am probably going to offend alot of people by saying all this, but i have a right to my opinion and the right to believe in what i believe in.

Answer 11

What's to understand??

The only absolute truth regarding God, is there's absolutely no evidence to support the claim that it exists (outside of faith, which is not evidence).