For all of you I'm more intelligent than a Christian.?

Question

What's the deal with always trying to 'disprove' the existance of God? I myself am not very religious. So trying to make me a believer or non-believer is going to be fruitless, but that's beside th point. Anyway, if you say that Christians are always trying to shove their beleifs down your throat, and thus believe yourself to be better, why do you do the same? When you say God doesn't exist based on 'facts' that you have found, such as 'the existance of poverty, you are using your OWN logic, much as Christians use their logic. You christians do not have enough knowledge or facts that prove the existance of God, which is true. Having said that, we are all only huimans, Can you truly say that you have the knoweldge and intelligence neccesary to disprove the existance of a Superior being? Why are you so against Christians? The response that they are "They cause of all the wars" is untrue, based on the fact that Christianity is an idea, and has no say in political issues.

Oh, I would prefer answers of people who can actually understand what I am asking.

The Question is WHT DO PEOPLE WANT TO DISPROVE THE EXISTANCE OF GOD?? I'm not wanting to be swayed, nor do i want facts, i want your own personal reason.

Answer 1

Okay.....where is the question?

Answer 2

When people complain about Christians imposing their beliefs on people, they aren't referring to Christians constructing logical arguments in support of their God and posting them on the Internet.
And there's a huge difference between 'a superior being' and the Christian definition of God. The reason you can't disprove the existence of a superior being is because it's such a vague concept. The Christian definition of God, however, has enough detail that it is possible to prove that definition false.

And to say that Christianity doesn't cause wars because it's an idea is just stupid. Name one war that had nothing to do with ideas. And while the the church may have no political power, obviously the religious views of voters and politicians have a huge impact politically. Try asking a bunch of Christians if they'd consider voting for an atheist president.

Answer 3

As an atheist, my main problem with Christianity (and any other religion) is the ignorance. By the time you read this, you will probably see that several people already given it a thumbs down just because it started with "As an atheist"

I personally like to think about deep things, for example what is the nature of consciousness; what is the universe and where did it come from; how did life first come about?
Religions and philosophies throughout the ages have always tried to try to answer the big questions, but for a long time now the scientific method has been proved to be the best one so far - it gets real results.

You could say that the scientific method is a new religion, and to seek the truth through experiment, mathematics and logic is the most important commandment. In this case, your religion commits blasphemy against mine - making extraordinary claims without extraordinary evidence to back them up (one old book does not count as extraordinary evidence).

In the world of science, if you haven't got the evidence then you cannot know the answer, and if you claim that you do know the answer and you don't have verifiable evidence then it is the job of the whole scientific community to expose you. There's no malice involved, this is how science corrects its mistakes.

So, if you have *any* conclusion that is not backed up by proof then the default position of a scientist is to laugh at you for believing without proof. It doesn't just apply to religion, it also applies to folklore, mysticism, conspiracy theories and Fox News.
The nature of science is to always question the facts, while the nature of religion is to accept facts without question. It should be no surprise that followers of science think they are intellectually superior to followers of religion.

Answer 4

The point is we don't (or shouldn't) try to disprove anything, this is logically not possible, however you do need to prove the assertions that you make and asserting that any god(s) exist needs a lot of proof.

There are some real issues besides the existence of gods that are a constant undertone i.e. "separation of church and state", "the need to separate any/all moral systems from law", and "why belief is not the same as science and can not be taught as such".

To rail against the exchange and challenging of ideas is to rant for ignorance.

Answer 5

1st off whats your question? Im a Seventh Day Adventist and i kind of see your point that people that dont want to believe in God make up excuses and stuff but i dont think that putting everyone under the same category is relevant because my mom doesnt share the same religion and i dont shove my ideas down her throat but if it makes sense like it has something to do with how i feel on a certain subject ill just let her know my stand on it not force religion on her. I know people that do that and its really wrong and thats why i try not to... and i just rambled on but whatever you get my point that all christians dont do the same things.

Answer 6

I don't think I am more intelligent than the average Christian. I do believe that I am a little more willing to look pragmatically at religion, and have overcome indoctrination that told me that God had to exist for me to have meaning and a purpose in life.

That was a lucky fluke and has nothing to do with my intelligence.

The reason I persist in trying to explain my belief/or lack of belief to you, is because history has shown that faith based belief systems lead to very dangerous behaviors.

I have kids and don't want them killed by someone convinced they are doing God's will. I don't want them married and then cut off from their spouses family, because they chose a different belief system. I don't want them to die from a disease because religious people felt that scientific study on stem cells was wrong.

Its all about a better future for me.

Answer 7

"I see less "disproving' attempts than simply notation of the lack of evidence for a Christian god (or any other)

Christianity is more than an idea, it is a collective institution and a mindset which HAS caused a lot of wars, persecutions, genocides and other attrocities.

And it IS political in the sense that as an institution is has attempted (and many times succeeded) in controlling people, controlling governments, eliminating/persecuting rivals, forcing conformity and in some cases directly governing its flock."



I agree with newgrang/kent_shakespear who posted the reply I quote above.

Answer 8

I see less "disproving' attempts than simply notation of the lack of evidence for a Christian god (or any other)

Christianity is more than an idea, it is a collective institution and a mindset which HAS caused a lot of wars, persecutions, genocides and other attrocities.

And it IS political in the sense that as an institution is has attempted (and many times succeeded) in controlling people, controlling governments, eliminating/persecuting rivals, forcing conformity and in some cases directly governing its flock.

Answer 9

Actually, you may not be able to disprove a God, but you can the Cristian God.

1. Omnipotentcy is a logical paradox
2. God shows emotion, and is therefore within time. What created time?
3. if God is omnipresent, he must exist in hell also. God is good. Evil is like darkness, and therefore is eradicated by the existence of any light, therefore hell is impossible.

There are more. I may put them up later.

Answer 10

You sound passionate, yet a bit confused. There have been many wars in the name of Christianity. However we are instructed not to. I can truly say that I have enough knowledge and facts to prove God's existence. My knowledge and facts are hand fed to me through God's Holy Word. Get deep in God's word and ask the Holy Spirit to guide you. Remember this is a temporary life in our bodies. Our spirit lives forever.

Answer 11

It is natural for humans to believe that "If you knew what I know then you would think like I think or if you had experienced what I experienced you would feel like I feel". This is, however, not true; What is "proof" or "disproof" to one person might be merely in interesting variable to another. Real dialogs don't usually start until people get past this assumption. Until then it's usually just "here's what I 'know'" or "here's what I experienced." People talk past each other trying to either make others like themselves or belittle the other or their point of view.

If we can't learn to accept and appreciate the uniqueness of each individual we aren't really talking to anyone but a projection of ourselves.

(P.S. This is from one who is trying to follow the teachings of Jesus)