As long as there are "pop" tests, there will be prayer in school.
The liberals want to remove God from School so that they can get all "religion" removed from society. It is not a new attack.
2007-10-18 04:16:40
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answered by Christmas Light Guy 7
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What is the purpose of school? Is religion one of the 3 R's? Nope. So why do you feel religion should be in school? Kids are there to learn, not be religious.
You can have freedom of religion, just do it at the right place and the right time. Is it appropriate for a kid to read the bible in math class? Hell no!
I don't say this too often, but I feel it is warranted: you are an idiot to think the constitution is "based on the holy bible". This is not a fact and there is a little thing called separation of church and state which you are ignoring completely.
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for the guy up top:
The separation of church and state is a legal and political principle derived from the First Amendment to the United States Constitution, which reads, "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof . . ." The phrase separation of church and state is generally traced to an 1802 letter by Thomas Jefferson to the Danbury Baptists, where Jefferson spoke of the combined effect of the Establishment Clause and the Free Exercise Clause of the First Amendment. The phrase itself does not appear in the Constitution, but it has been quoted in several opinions handed down by the United States Supreme Court.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Separation_of_church_and_state_in_the_United_States
2007-10-18 04:26:06
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answered by Anonymous
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Suspended for reading a bible? That's disgusting - and I'm saying that as an atheist - how is it that so many americans can't seem to find a healthy balance that respects individual's freedoms? Isn't that what the US is supposed to be about?
I was really agreeing with you, you seemed to be all about expressing religious freedoms, then suddenly you decide that the US is a Christian country and start arguing the opposite position! The constitution was not written based on the holy bible. One nation under god was added to the pledge of allegiance. I'm sure someone will get you a link. America was founded as a secular state and 'not in any sense founded on the christian religion' - those are John Adams' words.
2007-10-18 04:22:59
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answered by Leviathan 6
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I have been reading some old news. First the surpreme court already made a ruling about under God and said it stays. As for praying well thats old news too but I don't know what I can tell ya. Some folks just have to throw hissy fits over nothing. The kid can easly just pray at home so I don't see why the parents are making a deal out of it.
Plus the kid could have been not paying any attention in class or he might have been a trouble maker and the news isn't mentioning the fact.
Here are a few real true facts givin by my high school Representative of the state of Iowa District Five Royd Chambers have givin in class. So u know he really knows his stuff.
There is no real law in sepration of church and state in the amendments.
Yes Christainity was used for our gov't rules but so were some Bysantine laws.
2007-10-18 04:21:02
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answered by missgigglebunny 7
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While I am fine with other kids praying in school, and wouldn't care if someone brought a Bible and read it in school, I do believe we should take the "under God" out of the pledge. I don't say the pledge simply for this reason. Yes, the country was founded on a foundation of God and Christianity, but it was also founded in a time with no computers. We've advanced technologically, and religiously, so we should change accordingly.
2007-10-18 04:30:50
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answered by Anonymous
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I have a feeling there is more to those stories than meets the eye. In the case of the prayer story, were children quietly praying to themselves or doing so outloud and creating a distraction?
Also, with regards to the boy suspended for reading The Bible, was he reading it during class? Perhaps it wasn't his choice of reading material that was the problem but that he wasn't paying attention in class.
And no. Our constitution was not written based on the Bible. It was written based on secular enlightenment principles of men like Voltiare and Thomas Paine. "Under God." was not in the pledge of alligance until the 1950s when it was added as part of our battle plan during the cold war to combat "Godless Communism."
2007-10-18 04:30:32
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answered by K 5
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What? Next you're going to go on and on about how the school is taking away our freedom of speech because we're not allowed to cuss? Public school system means that everyone can come so long as they abide by their rules, and if they say that there is to be no mention of religion of any kind during school hours while on school grounds, then so be it. It's not like it's public ground, it's private ground that's open to the public.
And I believe that it is a good thing that "Under God" is being removed. We are not a theocracy, it has no business being there in the first place. To say that we are one nation under god is to say that we are completely one religion, we enforce one religion and that we outlaw all other religions (especially polytheistic and dietyless ones)
2007-10-18 04:29:04
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answered by Ghost Wolf 6
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Because religion and state are to separate things and are suppose to stay that way. Read the Const. it says it right in there and since schools are public (aka state) religion should be kept out of them.
And actually nothing in this countries founding was based on anything dealing with Christianity or anything like it, all the "god" stuff was added AFTER, it wasn't put there by the Founding Fathers.
"The government of the United States is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion." - John Adams, Treaty of Tripoly, Article 11
2007-10-18 04:18:50
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answered by draconum321 4
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Kids should be able to talk about whatever they want and bring whatever books they want to bring to school. It's not freedom of religion, it's freedom of speech. If you're allowed to say a prayer or read a religious text on the steps of a library, you're allowed to do it in a public school.
And, as posters have already said, "under God" was added to currency and the pledge in the 1950s to differentiate us from the "Godless Commies". "God" should be taken out of currency and license plates (in my state, they're the standard ones. You have to pay extra for one that doesn't say "In God We Trust") and the pledge should be thrown out all together. If you want kids to be reciting something every day in school, give them something from the constitution or the Bill of Rights.
2007-10-18 04:25:57
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answered by 雅威的烤面包机 6
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The Constitution NEVER even mentions the bible or Christianity. This country was not founded on any principle in the bible or any religious book. (THAT REALLY IS A FACT)
The "under god" was not added until 1954, as a convoluted way to fight communism.
Is there a reason someone needs to bring a bible to school? There are no bible classes there and they have 19 other hours in the day to study the bible if they wish. Silent self prayer in allowed anywhere. Public school is not the place to practice religion period. If you don't like it send your kid to private school.
2007-10-18 04:24:38
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answered by Anonymous
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Was that student just reading the Bible to themselves or was he preaching from it to others at school? There is a difference.
The Constitution is not based on the Bible.
The line "one nation, under God" was added to the Pledge of Allegiance was added in the 1950's.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pledge_of_Allegiance
2007-10-18 04:24:37
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answered by Richard P 3
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