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to declair that a supreme being has ultimate control of your destiny.
& that this being makes sure all is aokay with your self-important life.
do some people think their too important to die & that be the end of it.

or is it shirking responability for your life, just incase the shyte hits the fan, so you dont take the blame?

what is the meaning of prayer?
it becons the image of helpless insects begging for more, yet doing naught to achieve on their own.

arent we worth more than that. people shoud give themselves credit where due, not some imaginary force.
this is what churches have always wanted people to be. emotional slaves. because it makes them manageable & controlable.

i saw recently on a christian progam, a guy actually telling people to literaly do nothing. that god is taking care of everything.

is this right?

i know some will dissagree. but spare it a thought.

2007-10-18 03:55:06 · 5 answers · asked by brassmunkiee 3 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

sorry if i'm being harsh!

2007-10-18 04:00:27 · update #1

5 answers

people SHOULD give themselves credit where due... and they should also blame themselves where applicable.... using 'god' as a crutch for help or blame for excuses isn't very applaudable.... we rise or fall according to our own hand....

and if 'god is taking care of everything', folks, we're in deep stuff.... no canoe and no paddles, either.....good thing some of us can swim................

2007-10-18 04:11:16 · answer #1 · answered by meanolmaw 7 · 1 0

I understand your point. To me the meaning of prayer is thanksgiving and communication with the Creator. I pray for guidance each day and sometimes that guidance could come from a babbling brook, gentle breeze, butterfly, dog, cat, bear, ant, person etc.

2007-10-18 04:06:52 · answer #2 · answered by Spirit Dancer 5 · 0 1

Sometimes it's best to do nothing, whether you believe God is in control or not. In certain cases, to attempt to fix things on your own just amounts to spinning your wheels - you're wasting energy and digging yourself a deeper hole.

2007-10-18 04:06:33 · answer #3 · answered by Amanda M 3 · 1 1

You make a great point, but it's a little harsh.

2007-10-18 03:58:41 · answer #4 · answered by Eagiusti 4 · 1 0

All of that needs a 180 degree turn!

Listen to/read the following carefully:

LIFE'S PURPOSE AND MEANING

In an atheistic philosophy, there are certain things that concern the reality of life that must be accepted as illusion because, without God, that is the only thing they can be. We live our lives as if they have a real and genuine purpose. Most people will say that their lives have meaning, regardless of their philosophy. But a life that is created by chance, and natural selection, can have no inherent or objective purpose or meaning. Instead, such a life can only have a self-assigned, subjective meaning. A non-objective, self-assigned meaning is purely imaginary! It is a subjective opinion of what can only be a subjective reality. Conversely, a life created by design and a designer, such as the one described in Christianity, is given an objective purpose; its meaning is genuine and inherent. We may have different, subjective opinions as to what that purpose is, but these are subjective opinions concerning an objective reality.

As a demonstration of the imaginary quality of self-assigned, subjective purpose, examine the tumultuous life of 'Andy'. When Andy was in school, he decided that his goal in life was to become a doctor and help alleviate the pain of his patients. This was the self-assigned purpose he gave to his life; without this purpose, his life would have very little meaning. For 6 years, this self-assigned purpose motivated him to get up each morning. Then he became very ill and his hopes of becoming a doctor vanished. So he married a very handsome woman and put her on a pedestal. Her love gave his life meaning. His sole life's purpose was to love this incredible woman; without her, his life would have very little meaning. Unfortunately, his wife felt the same way about another man and, after 5 years of marriage, she divorced Andy. Andy then decided to buy a Harley, because he knew that his bike would never leave him for another man. That bike gave Andy's life meaning; his purpose was to become one with the wind. Then he wrecked it...so he turned to chess...he would become the best chess player in the world...

The above scenario doesn't allow me to equate subjective, self-assigned purpose with objective, inherent designed purpose. I see the above as latching on to one diversion after another in a desperate attempt to avoid the reality of a meaningless life.

What makes the purpose created by God any less subjective than the purpose created by man?

I would think that the designer of any instrument or creature would be the one to consult in matters of the design and purpose of his design. If the designer states that the purpose of his instrument is to remove and place screws, then he has declared that purpose as the objective purpose. The opinion of such a designer, wouldn't qualify as an opinion, but rather it becomes the objective purpose of the instrument. There is nothing to stop us from turning the instrument around and using its handle to pound in nails (and I am not one to decry the usefulness of employing a screwdriver in this manner), however, that usage would not be the objective purpose for which the instrument was created.

God is, by definition, the author or designer of life. A designer designs with intention. Only the designer is in a position to know his intention; all others can only speculate concerning his intention. For example, players, without the set of instructions for a new board game, can only have opinions as to how the game is designed to be played. They don't know, with certainty, the objective intent of its designer. But when the designer reveals the objective purpose of the game through written instructions and rules, he objectively states his intention. The designer is the authority concerning his design; he is the objective authority when it comes to purpose of the design because only he can know, with certainty, its purpose. He may attempt to make that purpose known to others, but that attempt would make it open to interpretation. But to agree that the designer’s expressed intentions as to how the game is to be played, are just as subjective as one’s own interpretation of the game, would be like saying to another, "We know what you think you mean, but we disagree that you really mean it.”

Skeptics may say that Christians deceive themselves into believing that there is a god, in order to supply their lives with an objective purpose. Of course, whether or not this god exists remains open to debate. Skeptics, however, reject the concept of a deity, and, therefore, reject any concept of an objective purpose to their lives, but emotionally maintain that their lives have a purpose, a purpose that can only be imaginary. At least there is the possibility that our God is real, and we don’t have to pretend that our lives have meaning.

Source: http://www.ex-atheist.com/game-designer-argument.html

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Quote for an ex-atheist:

It wasn't that I was without the capability to perceive the truth; my obstinacy wouldn't allow me to see it. I was too full of myself and too blinded by what I thought were logically sound arguments to see that which was right under my nose.

Just as God can be perceived, He can also be shut out. We train our senses to tune out certain stimuli, such as the noise of traffic, or joint pain, which comes with age (I never knew how much pain I was in until a pain pill took it all away!). A large ego doesn't want to submit to any authority. A self-sufficient and self-righteous person believes they have no need of God. The immoral want to continue in their activities with a free conscience. Pride in my intellect and my anti-Christian bigotry allowed me to shut Him out for over twenty years.

It's as if the truth of God is being spoken all around us, but we can't always hear it. This world teaches us to tune Him out. His spirit is like the low pitched hum of a fluorescent light. If you busy yourself with distraction, or if you keep your own thoughts turned up so high in your head, you won't even notice the light. Picture yourself in a large crowd of people. If you are in the midst of the crowd, concentrating on your own thoughts, the conversations around you become a drone in which no particular words can be discerned. But if you focus your hearing on one voice or another, you find that you can follow a conversation. You have to be still. You have to be quiet. You have to train yourself to listen for it, and if you do all of those things, you will hear Him. You will have tuned into God.

http://www.ex-atheist.com/Learning%20To%20Think%20Spiritually.html

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Also, I don't go around just letting God handel everything.
It is appropriate AT TIMES but God tells us our
responsibilities and what will really work in life.
It is VERY important!

2007-10-18 04:06:21 · answer #5 · answered by Nickel-for-your-thoughts 5 · 0 3

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