ATheists, have you ever thought about how perfectly designed nature is?

Question

Even if you think it all came about natural selection...the selection thats available must have an origin.

All I know is that scientists look at nature to help us improve technology all the time. There is a great book titled "Wild Technology" by Phil Gates which talks about this.

So where is the origin of Natures designs and technology?

Answer 1

"always", "never" and "perfect" ....Three words that have no business in human language.

Answer 2

What is so perfect about nature? Walk through the park and notice that the beautiful flowers and trees have sickly or damaged or dead parts. Consider all the people born with some defect or those born into most unfortunate situations. That is highly imperfect. Ninety percent of all species that have ever lived on this planet have gone extinct. If your giant invisible friend in the sky ("God" is what you call him) was designing, he did a pretty crappy job, on the whole. No one knows how it started. It may have been something on a rock from space or it may have been some fortuitous bubblings that produced the first bits of self-replicating proteins which eventually joined others and evolved over millions and millions of years. Neither your invisible friend nor mine (named Sammy Snapswitch, by the way) had anything to do with it.

Answer 3

Big Bang -- a natural occurrence

Uncomplicated elements begin to join together -- motion, gravity.

Megalithic Clouds form.

Gradually the clouds form to create 1st generation stars.

Eventually some first generation stars supernova creating more complex elements like carbon - essential for life as we know it.

Second generation stars form and also new planets one of which is our Earth.

Earth cools for 0.5 billion years. The atmosphere is heavy with hydrogen but there is also oxygen. Also RNA exists.

On a violent Earth the first life is created from complex carbon configurations in the oceans.

Over the next 4 billion years life becomes incredibly diverse.

Many very long lasting types of life comes into existence. Many types come and go.

Mankind is a late arrivals and has been here a very short time. Dinosaurs lasted millions of years longer than we're expected to.

Atheists seem to have the innate power to comprehend billions of years. I don't think you can.

Answer 4

Well, if you think hard about it, you'll see that Nature is not so well designed. Nature is designed in an ad hoc way through the accumulation of many small changes. But that way of working is messy at the same time. Evolution by natural selection is not an efficient process (even if some of the designs are beautiful).

Take you appendix for example. It's a terrible design. First problem: your appendix exists. It's functionality was lost long ago. Yet you've probably still got yours. And it could easily become infected. Anyway you look at it, bad design.

So, reconsider nature. It works the way it does by a process that is grand in scope by virtue of zillions of small changes.

Answer 5

I think about the perfection of "nature" all the time. When compared to the flawed document commonly referred to as the Bible, the contrast is astronomical.

If I never know the origin of Nature's "designs and technology," I can still live a happy, productive life, because Nature put me here and I do my best to live in harmony with it.

I DO know what Nature's origin is NOT. It is not the angry, violent, schizophrenic entity(ies) portrayed in the Bible. It is galactically flawed and could not therefore come from a "perfect" being.

Answer 6

That "perfect design" is garbage.

Roughly 99% of all lines that have ever existed have gone extinct.

Natural selection is about developing features. A slight advantage keeps improving as it's optimum function aids survival. That's natural selection. Calling it design ignores all the inefficiencies of each system.

Answer 7

Why? Why must you insert the idea of an intelligent creator? That is purely a judgment on your part. Can't you just admit you don't know? Does your life need to be made 'special' by believing something made you for a purpose? Isn't being alive enough? The god of gaps annoys me. Put the book written in the bronze age down and make your own decisions about life and morality.

Answer 8

Natural selection operates on tiny random mutations in the genetic code. Beneficial changes give an advantage which, over a vast period of time, leads to "design improvements".

But there are also bad changes. Deformities, cancerous growths, malignant viruses - are these examples of "perfect design"? Bad changes don't survive the competition, because they are not beneficial to the organism.

Answer 9

Just because nature exists and evolves doesn't mean it was "designed".

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Have you ever thought about how my presents get under the tree every christmas? How did they get there if not with the help of Santa?

Answer 10

Perfect?? You obviously haven't studied much or you would know why we are the only living line in the Homo genus....like many other lines. Most species have gone extinct through history, what is living now is a fraction of what evolved over time. See any dinosaurs anywhere?

You are woefully ignorant.

Answer 11

Nature is perfectly designed?

So what is the origin of the origin of the origin of the origin ...... etc etc ....

If you tell me the origin does not need an origin, then why is it a necessities for other things to have an origin?