Does Giuliani stand a chance without the christian vote?

Question

I have seen on the news and heard over talk radio a lot of christian leaders are endorsing a push for a 3rd party candidate if Giuliani is chosen to run for president as the republican candidate.

Do the republicans stand a chance if he is chosen to run? His more liberal stances on abortion threaten his standing with the christians and more hard liner conservatives. Christian vote is a large part of the Republican basis, especially here in the south where I live.

Answer 1

I like James Dobson's take on it. Sometimes you HAVE to stick to principals. If it comes down to him and Clinton, I for one, will really be torn.

Answer 2

Glad to know some people know the truth about the guy. Difficult isn't it!?

Don't think a third party is going to keep HC or BO out. We'd be better off putting our support behind someone like Fred Thompson. I think he has the best take on pro-life issues anyway: "bad science & bad law". He doesn't base them on moralism, but real medicine & real law. We don't need moralism or an Evangelical to win the pro-life battle, just some brains, some heart, some courage!

In other words, I don't necessarily agree with James Dobson, etc. We need to get a grip & see Christian theocracy as just as sinful as Islam theocracy.

Answer 3

Has anyone looked at Congress these days? The Conservative agenda is not the agenda that is swaying the public. Neither is the liberal agenda. People are more moderate than I have ever known them to be, and I have been involved in politics for more than 30 years, and among the first class of citizens to be able to vote at 18.

I am Christian, as are many of those who do not support President Bush's policies...policies that say no child health care because we are too busy spending money on abstinence-only education plans that do not work, not only because they do not keep those who want to be active from engaging in sex, but they do not prevent health concerns from happening even when one does wait until marriage. And those that do not receive the proper education, even if they follow a strong moral code, do not know how to handle many of the issues regarding sexual activity among married couples.

I am Pro-choice, and I strongly believe abortion is murder. But, I also cannot judge, lest I be judged, even though I do believe it is against the Commandments to kill an innocent being before it leaves its mother's womb, I know others will have to face their maker, and I read how many here are not of the same spiritual code as I am, and if they are willing to accept their post-life consequence, I am not going to try to act like G-D in their behalf. I could not accept it if my wife or my son's other when he gets serious were to undergo an abortion (my wife never would because we share a deep devotion to Jesus), but until the day it is against the law, while I try to be above the law and in the spirit, I know others will not be,

But, I look at Rudy Giuliani, and I see a man who, while he did not act alone, cleaned up New York City and made it respectable in ways it never was. I see a man who took care of the homeless, so they had shelters and did not pose the safety risk to the extent that they did for years.

I see a man who made mistakes on 9/11, but who nonetheless took charge while the leader of the Republican conservatives continued to read to children as if nothing was going on around us.

Can someone tell me what Hilary Clinton did other than survive a husband's adultery? Is that what makes her the next president, is that what made her the current Senator--merely being the other woman. My wife endured that far longer in her first marriage than Hilary did, does that qualify her for president? What major laws has she proposed? What landmark legislation bears the name Clinton on it as a sponsor?

Maybe if Al Gore ran, he would have a shot with the awards he is amassing, but he would hardly be the conservative's choice.

Rudy Giuliani ruled a city with millions of Christians, and won their vote. He was voted America's mayor by Christian publishers. He cleaned up America's "Fun City." He will encounter opposition from the citizenry for things he has done, but those who look at the record of how NYC has changed have to give some of the credit to this Mayor. What credit do we give in any way to George Bush?

His policies have flawed, and not been accepted by mainstream, To try to force it down the throat of people who want certain actions-votes on kiddie kare, votes on the war, votes on other things--will not win the elections. A middle of the road and well cleared out approach is what is needed.

I see the candidates on the board, knowing Al Gore is not around right now, and after Fred Dean Thompson, I see no true challengers to Rudy, and none to Hilary....but we are a few months away.

I think Rudy is being a pragmatist, not a Conservative iconoclast, he sees who voted for Congress and he knows how to win with them. I think he can do that without polarizing people as both the liberals and conservatives would.

I hope he does. He does get my vote and my prayer.

JAY-FROM OHIO VIA BROOKLYN AND LAWN GUYLAND

Answer 4

The Clintons have quite a number of political means yet to "foyer" the superdelegates whether via bargains or intimidation. Hillary's have been given it, balloting and endorsements are beside the point.

Answer 5

As closely contested as the last two presidential elections were, if Religious conservatives don't vote for him, whether or not a 3rd party candidate runs, he probably won't win. He needs EVERY vote he can get. [But he won't be getting mine.]

Answer 6

Don't vote for him, and run a 3rd party. Congratulations President Clinton. It is unbelievable that the only issue that concerns Christians is Abortion.

Answer 7

I'm a Christian and I'd never vote for him.
Not only because of the abortion thing but also cause he's a cheat and a liar.
Just ask his wives.


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Answer 8

I live in south also and he will not be getting my vote.

Answer 9

i think he can stand without christian votes