Saved? Saved + destroyed after by add destruction(law) to salvation(grace) -vs- saved(only) by grace(only)?

Question

Many Jesus Fan-attics claim they're saved,
because they "believe" on the Lord Jesus;
Not knowing devils also believe this Crap,
Nor knowing the Bible goal isn't to believe.
The Bible goal isn't to believe, but to know.
"Know" the truth makes you free of "Believe".

Eg: Nineveh believed God(Law), and thereby
stayed off destruction prophesied within 40 days,
so in a manner of speaking they were all saved;
but later got destroyed, so both saved + destroyed.

Eg: Jude 1:5 reminds us, all saved out of Egypt,
also got destroyed after, so saved + destroyed.

Point: Grace + Law is allegorically Saved + Destroyed.
God our Saviour(Only) is not both Saviour + Destroyer.

Only place where destruction isn't added to saved is
the end of every Pauline Epistle, including Revelation;
And main reason Pauline written Revelaton ends Bible
is Rev contains a stern warning not to add any thing to it.

The GRACE of our Lord Jesus Christ WITH YOU ALL. AMEN.

Add a comment to that?

You can't have both all destroyed and all saved, since such is as foolish as extinction followed by salvation; Not to mention two alls is one too many all.

So then consider possiblity of two Gods: God their destroyer and God our Saviour, as if Law and Grace. Pick One as the blessed and ONLY Potenate.

For grace "is", and law "added"; So the only combo: grace + law = life + death, which is also saved + destroyed after; Which God our Saviour will not have. Rather what God our Saviour will have is two things: all men saved, AND all men aware what they're saved from: law

You can't have both all destroyed and all saved, since such is as foolish as extinction followed by salvation; Not to mention two alls is one too many all.

So then consider possiblity of two Gods: God their destroyer and God our Saviour, as if Law and Grace. Pick One as the blessed and ONLY Potenate.

For grace "is", and law "added"; So the only combo: grace + law = life + death, which is also saved + destroyed after; Which God our Saviour will not have. Rather what God our Saviour will have is two things: all men saved(graced), AND all men aware what they're saved(delivered) from: law. Selah.

Answer 1

Once a person is saved are they always saved? When people come to know Christ as their Savior, they are brought into a relationship with God that guarantees their salvation as eternally secure. Numerous passages of Scripture declare this fact. (a) Romans 8:30 declares, "And those He predestined, He also called; those He called, He also justified; those He justified, He also glorified." This verse tells us that from the moment God chooses us, it is as if we are glorified in His presence in heaven. There is nothing that can prevent a believer from one day being glorified because God has already purposed it in heaven. Once a person is justified, his salvation is guaranteed - he is as secure as if he is already glorified in heaven.

(b) Paul asks two crucial questions in Romans 8:33-34 "Who will bring any charge against those whom God has chosen? It is God who justifies. Who is he that condemns? Christ Jesus, who died more than that, who was raised to life - is at the right hand of God and is also interceding for us." Who will bring a charge against God's elect? No one will, because Christ is our advocate. Who will condemn us? No one will, because Christ, the One who died for us, is the one who condemns. We have both the advocate and judge as our Savior.

(c) Believers are born again (regenerated) when they believe (John 3:3; Titus 3:5). For a Christian to lose his salvation, he would have to be un-regenerated. The Bible gives no evidence that the new birth can be taken away. (d) The Holy Spirit indwells all believers (John 14:17; Romans 8:9) and baptizes all believers into the Body of Christ (1 Corinthians 12:13). For a believer to become unsaved, he would have to be "un-indwelt" and detached from the Body of Christ.

(e) John 3:15 states that whoever believes in Jesus Christ will "have eternal life." If you believe in Christ today and have eternal life, but lose it tomorrow, then it was never "eternal" at all. Hence if you lose your salvation, the promises of eternal life in the Bible would be in error. (f) For the most conclusive argument, I think Scripture says it best itself, "For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord" (Romans 8:38-39). Remember the same God who saved you is the same God who will keep you. Once we are saved we are always saved. Our salvation is most definitely eternally secure

Answer 2

Okay, I will comment. First the book of revelation was not the last book written, Several were written after, so the mention that nothing is to be added only refers to the book of revelation. So we could still have more words from God coming somehow. Next, you makes some assumptions that the devils believe "this crap." No they do not. They are devils because they did not belive it and therefore they lost the chance to come to this earth. They are jelous of you and me and want us to fail. Therefore, they believe they can derail us from being all that we need to be. It actually takes some work to put your faith in action. You come to know by this activity. When you come to know you want others to have the same joy you have found. there is much more to it than you have stated, but I will not try to pursuade you. I will only ask you to study it out more. Good luck

Answer 3

Can a Believer "Lose" His Salvation? Or reported extra wisely, Can He Forfeit It? --------------------------------------... "Has God certainly stated...those on the rocky soil are people who, while they hear, acquire the be conscious with excitement; and those have not have been given any company root; they suspect for a at the same time as, and in time of temptation fall away."? (Luke 8:13) --------------------------------------... precis the scripture for sure teaches the two the sovereignty of God AND the unfastened will of adult males. to disclaim that's irrational, and ought to be led to via some thing different than reason in accordance with scriptural precepts. The scriptural place is that a individual who's saved can forfeit that salvation. The bible teaches those at optimal possibility of forfeiting their salvation are people who're newly saved, and people who proceed on in prevalent disobedience, after being born lower back. The decide for are those whom God chosen, whom God foresaw might the two believe in His Son AND who might undergo or persevere in the religion given them till the top of their actual existence, or the return of Jesus. those whose hearts are in seek of the Lord with all that's in them, could have not have been given any project approximately "dropping" their salvation. Nor could they have any project approximately forfeiting their salvation. Salvation can not be misplaced, in spite of the indisputable fact that it relatively is forfeited - that's the character of covenants in the bible. The bible no the place assure's somebody that salvation as quickly as won can not be grew to become faraway from or forfeited via the guy that possesses it. Receiving salvation comprises guy's will, and not works. Forfeiting salvation comprises guy's will, and not works. in the comparable way the Lord did no longer stress His salvation on absolutely everyone, He neither forces absolutely everyone to proceed to be in the covenant.

Answer 4

The whole concept of resurrection and rebirth is based on the reverse: Destroyed, then Saved.

Answer 5

That's quite the equation you have there. You have it all worked out don't you? You must be one of those 'true' and 'chosen' Christians. I'm sure we all just envy you.

Answer 6

Point: You + this Board = *drink*