Seriously, if someone posted your definition of "evidence" as to support a scientific theory that they may uncover in future, it will firstly prove their insane, secondly it would prove nothing, and lastly religious groups would DEFINITELY deny it from lack of evidence, however, even if there was a large amount of evidence that also contradicted 'evidence' for God, you would almost definitely deny it as well (evolution).
2007-10-17 10:51:30
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answer #1
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answered by Ravenous Q 1
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"How do you think we got here? Through chance?"
Evolution BUT I know that studying other concepts is beyond you cos you're a fundie.
GODDIDIT is much easier to 'understand' and remember.
"Life is far too improbable to come about by chance."
Just because you haven’t the intelligence to understand another concept you settle for this cheap imitation.
In reality the GODDIDIT concept is so much harder to understand when you really look at it because it always comes back to 'who made god?' and there is never an answer because invisible sky chappies do NOT exist.
"How can a brain form from nothing?"
If that is the thrust of your argument then HOW can 'god' manufacture something from nothing or are you suggesting that your Imaginary Sky Critter is beyond Time Space Logic Reason?
"I hope I have at the very least given doubters something to think about."
No, you haven't cos you've not said or done anything new or presented any EVIDENCE that would sway a secure person.
You may sway a frightened little person who doesn't want to take responsibility for their own life but you'd never convince a person who likes taking responsibility for own life.
You came to gather customers for your business; you came to proselytise.
That's against Com Guidelines.
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2007-10-17 11:24:47
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answered by Anonymous
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There are a lot of leaps in logic between the necessity for a creator and Jesus being your lord and savior, the Bible being the word and God, or God actually giving a crap about mankind. I can understand the first cause argument, but the rest is just wishful assumption.
2007-10-17 10:47:45
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answered by Subconsciousless 7
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First, god the creator and Jesus god's son and man's salvation are two very different things. Most theists would accept a god or demi-god as the creator. Most would not accept Jesus as his or her son and our personal savior.
Even looking just at god as creator, there are too many beautiful complex things that do arise by chance. Take a snowflake, for example (unless you believe that some santa god's elves make each one). Furthermore, evolution is not chance. Mutation is, but natural selection directs evolution down useful pathways.
If you have any doubts, take a look at the design of the eye. It evolved from simpler, flat light sensing organs and, by chance, the optic nerve goes through the eyeball and connects to the rods and cones within the eye. Any intelligent designer would have it connect from the back. After all, your monitor doesn't have a big plug in the middle of it's screen. But because it's the result of evolution rather than creation, it's suboptimal but sufficient design persists.
2007-10-17 10:35:48
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answered by Dave P 7
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good luck to you im pleased you are happy in your beliefs.however personally when i look around i see things like the sun, flowers and trees or clouds rain and oceans- all of these things can be explained by science in a lot more believable way than in the bible (in my opinion). with regard to live being too improbable to be by chance i totally disagree- if you consider that there are more stars in the universe than grains of sand on this planet and most of them probably have as many if not more planets than our sun i cannot believe that no where out there is a planet like ours that is capable of sustaining life in some form
2007-10-17 22:32:37
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answered by LUCY M 2
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You hope you've given us something to think about?!?!?!
Do you really think we haven't heard all this gazillions of times before?
You don't even understand what we think and why, yet you expect us to take your bilge seriously?
There is NOT evidence for a creator anywhere, nor any reason to believe in such a being.
No one said a brain formed from nothing. That's completely moronic.
Before saying that you know we're wrong, you need to find out what it is we acctually believe.
All you've given me to think about is the arrogance of mindless believers who think they're the first to say the same dumb things I've heard and read thousands of times before.
However many times I see the same idiocy, it never ceases to amaze me.
2007-10-17 11:01:04
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answer #6
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answered by tehabwa 7
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Many people don't WANT to believe in God. It is that simple. That is why I was an atheist years ago. I tried to rationalize my disbelief with evolution and come up with my own spirituality. It didn't work.
The logic to your question is called 'inference to the best explanation.' If you fly to New York City saw a flower bed that said "WELCOME TO NEW YORK," it make sense to believe that somebody planted those flowers. It does not make sense to say the flowers were deposited there by the wind.
Intelligent Design points to a creator god that is omniscient, omnipresent, and omnipotent. That narrows down the celestial playing field considerably. From there you must take a small leap of faith to the God of the Bible. I, too, have taken that leap.
Atheists commonly strain at the gnat of Christianity and swallow the camel of Atheism. Though they claim to love logic, reason, and free thought, you would be wasting your time by using those concepts to share the Gospel with them. It's like my pastor once told me: "You can't argue anyone into the Kingdom of Heaven."
Atheists-
Try this for logic: provide a sound argument for your claim that there is no God. This is something that I have yet to see any of you do. To do so you would need to back up your claim with facts (support) and a warrant (relevance). Since folks have been believing in some sort of god for thousands of years, the burden of proof (he who asserts must prove) lies on you. So in short:
SUPPORT: ???
WARRANT: ???
CLAIM: God does not exist.
2007-10-17 11:13:22
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answered by kdanley 7
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For some people they do not believe in God is because they are being blinded by satan, so they can't see the truth, as the bible says. Some people would rather not believe in a God also because they use as a motive to do what they want, thinking that there is no consequence for there actions, but as it says in the bible we will stand before the throne and be judged. People have the choice and it is ultimatley theres to make.
2007-10-17 11:06:16
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answered by mark s 1
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If you want to give doubters something to think about, you have to do some thinking yourself. As a Christian, I find your poorly-informed assumptions and weak arguments offensive, as more likely to drive intelligent people away from the faith than show what is appealing about it.
2007-10-17 10:46:57
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answered by jamesfrankmcgrath 4
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Even if you accept the premise that there must be some form of supernatural creator to form brains (I don't, but that's a different argument).
How do you make the leap that the supernatural creator is necessarily your God, and the Bible is true?
What proof do you have that it wasn't Quetzcoatl, Odin, or aliens from Zeta Reticuli?
2007-10-17 10:39:47
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answered by Anonymous
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