We are quick to forgive rapists and murderers but is the crime of homosexuality forgivable?
I had just asked a question on whether or not a homosexual that feels remorse and changes his life around to follow God may join the LDS church and be admitted to the priesthood.
Some of the responses I got was the same tune of that if the incumbent has remained chaste that he could. That however is an extremely ignorant answer as the very definition of homosexuality is having sex with a mammal of the same sex. Therefore, it is completely impossible for someone to have been a homosexual without having sex.
My brother claims to be a homosexual and unless he just wants to make a complete fool of himself he must have been raped by a man. Right?
Surely he must feel that God will not forgive him and that is why he continues this.
It is then necessary to clarify whether or not homosexuality is forgivable if the sinner is truly sorry for his sins and crimes of sodomy, unnatural sex.
2007-10-17 06:37:33 · 13 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
We are quick to forgive rapists and murderers but is the crime of homosexuality forgivable?
--Homosexuality isn't a crime.
I had just asked a question on whether or not a homosexual that feels remorse and changes his life around to follow God may join the LDS church and be admitted to the priesthood.
--Good for you.
Some of the responses I got was the same tune of that if the incumbent has remained chaste that he could.
--Once again, homosexuality isn't a crime.
That however is an extremely ignorant answer as the very definition of homosexuality is having sex with a mammal of the same sex.
--Wrong. You are therefore saying that until a person has sex, they are neither homo or heterosexual. I knew I was heterosexual WAY before I ever had physical contact with someone.
Therefore, it is completely impossible for someone to have been a homosexual without having sex.
--You're wrong.
My brother claims to be a homosexual and unless he just wants to make a complete fool of himself he must have been raped by a man. Right?
--You're either a troll or seriously screwed up in the head.
Surely he must feel that God will not forgive him and that is why he continues this.
--I am so glad not to be related to you.
It is then necessary to clarify whether or not homosexuality is forgivable if the sinner is truly sorry for his sins and crimes of sodomy, unnatural sex.
--It's really a moot point.
Liesel.
2007-10-17 19:07:54 · answer #1 · answered by Liesel 5 · 1⤊ 0⤋
First of all if you truly understand what is being taught in Sunday School as the one unforgivable sin, worthy of Outer Darkness (remember that Hell is only temporary- like the Catholic's Purgatory) then He would have to see Heavenly Father and then deny Him. Now assuming your brother hasn't done this then yes of course he can be forgiven.
Now since we are Y!A and have you have no idea who I am I'll be a little more personal about this. I happen to be bisexual. I have always thought that boys and girls are beautiful and have been attracked to both sexes. I have also had a relationship with a woman as well as with a man, I have had anal sex (which is what sodomy is) as have many straight couples, it being having unmarital sex with either sex is a very serious sin. I have had a very hard time repenting of this, but I know I can be forgiven.
It is a matter of self control. I know this is a REALLY HARD THING TO DO. Maybe its not so much that your brother is thinking he wont be forgiven but that what he is being asked to do is too hard for him. Which I completely understand. The truth is that in the end your brother is going to make his own decisions. The best you can do is pray he'll come back (which is really hard to do and rarely done in full) and be the best brother you can be in the meantime (meaning help him feel loved no matter what he does).
I hope that helps shed some light on the situation.
P.S. We really aren't so quick to forgive rapists and murderers. My friend was merely accused of raping a girl (which he never did, I was his alaby) and he was never convicted in court but because the girl had accused him he was stripped of his priesthood and was never allowed to go on his mission. This really isn't something I'd call easy.
2007-10-17 07:27:19 · answer #2 · answered by Summerae Girl 3 · 2⤊ 0⤋
From a church point of view, every sin that is "given up" or not acted upon any longer, can be forgiven. Whether that is drinking, lying, stealing, cheating, adultery or homosexual acts. Being homosexual is not a sin, acting upon those tendancies is though. Having those feelings is not a sin, but when those feelings turn to actions, that is when the sin comes in...
It is forgiveable if that person is willing to not act upon those feelings. It is the same for a man who loves porn...there is no sin until he looks at the porn. Make sense?
And that too, can be forgiven. There are steps to repentance and part of being forgiven is forsaking the sin.
2007-10-17 08:27:57 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
No offense, but your definition of homosexuality is nonsensical. By your logic, a virgin that is attracted to members of the opposite sex is nevertheless not a heterosexual because he/she has not yet "had sex." Homosexuality is determined by tendencies and feelings, not just "sex."
But whatever definition of homosexuality you choose to adopt, the answer to your question is the same: homosexual acts can be forgiven. If repentant, those who learn to deal with their tendencies without engaging in homosexual acts (which I'm sure is very challenging!) can join the church and can hold the priesthood.
2007-10-17 19:08:30 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
Yes, it is forgivable by LDS doctrine, but the person would have to have an extended interview with the Mission President or an assigned delegate before being admitted for baptism.
As far as LDS doctrine goes (and I agree with this, though I do not agree with all of the Church's doctrine), it is "homosexual acts" that are the sin, not homosexual feelings or tendencies.
2007-10-17 06:45:58 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 6⤊ 0⤋
I think your defintion of "homosexual" is a little flawed. A person can still be an alcoholic without having had a drink in over a year. The same can be applied here.
And maybe instead of believing it is an unforgivable sin, your brother doesn't believe in God at all, and he continues because he finds it enjoyable.
Every sin except blasphemy against the Holy Ghost is forgivable.
Hope that helps.
2007-10-17 06:49:15 · answer #6 · answered by Senator John McClain 6 · 4⤊ 1⤋
The greatest sin is despair.......Believing any sin is greater than God's forgiveness. Don't look to others to tell you what they think a sin is. We are all born in sin, but take the life given to you and be the best person you can be.
2016-05-23 04:23:16 · answer #7 · answered by ? 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
homosexuality is forgiveable but not entirely without some price to pay. what that is is not for anyone to say but god. He deals with people as he sees fit and does whatever he will. but he also forgives sin if you ask him to if you do so with a truly repentant heart. repent means to turn from sin completly and not turn back. blasphemy is the only unforgiveable sin and murder while you are on earth. to be forgiven for murder ,you must face your victim and ask for their forgiveness. everything else is forgiveable. trust Him andGod bless
2007-10-17 06:54:43 · answer #8 · answered by raceman 2 · 4⤊ 0⤋
YOU ARE ALL WRONG! It's sad to see all of your answers on here. Homosexuality is VERY wrong and is a sin in God's eyes. Romans 1 tells us that God gave them (homosexuals) up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
The men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust toward one another;
Homosexuality is a sin. And no joining a church or LDS or whatever can free him of that sin. His only hope is to turn to Jesus Christ who freely accepts all that come to him (John 6:37). Jesus will freely forgive him and help him turn his life around. That doesn't mean that he won't ever have those feelings again, but that he will have a power from God to help resist those temptations. The only unforgiveable sin is rejecting the Holy Spirit - blaspheme. I'm not typing this as a hate against mormons and other faiths, i'm typing this because it comes directly from the Word of God.
2007-10-17 07:27:55 · answer #9 · answered by jonka 1 · 0⤊ 3⤋
The only unforgivable sins I know of are Murder, and denying of the Holy Ghost.
God wil forgive those who truly repent. Truely repent means totally forsaken of the sin.
0 And again, believe that ye must repent of your sins and forsake them, and humble yourselves before God; and ask in sincerity of heart that he would forgive you; and now, if you believe all these things see that ye do them.
(Book of Mormon | Mosiah 4:10)
9 ...... I would that ye should repent and forsake your sins, and go no more after the lusts of your eyes,.... for except ye do this ye can in nowise inherit the kingdom of God. ......
(Book of Mormon | Alma 39:9)
43 By this ye may know if a man repenteth of his sins—behold, he will confess them and forsake them.
(Doctrine and Covenants | Section 58:43)
42 Behold, he who has repented of his sins, the same is forgiven, and I, the Lord, remember them no more.
(Doctrine and Covenants | Section 58:42)
2007-10-17 08:20:50 · answer #10 · answered by Wahnote 5 · 2⤊ 0⤋