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Does their spirit or soul go to heaven right then? If not, what and when does that happen? If you believe that at least a 144,000 can live in heaven after they die..then is it not possible that you are mistaken about the 144, 000 number? But, my main question is what happens to your annointed ones after they die..and when. Thank you..

2007-10-17 06:37:11 · 15 answers · asked by Lisa... 1 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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Yes, Jehovah's Witnesses believe that soon after 1914 (when Christ's "presence" or "[second] coming" or "advent" or "the Lord's day" began), all of the 144,000 who died up to that point were resurrected to heaven, and after that date any who died would be resurrected to heaven instantly.

(1 Corinthians 15:51-52) We [with a heavenly hope] shall not all fall asleep in death [that is, some will not need years or centuries for their resurrections], but we shall all be changed, in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, during the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised up incorruptible, and we shall be changed.


Officially, Jehovah's Witnesses have never expressed any hesitation about the literalness of the number 144,000. The number seems quite specific, the number is repeated, the number is emphasized also as a multiple (12 x 12000), and the number is never used anywhere else in the bible as a symbol for anything. It seems impossible to ignore that there has never been any earthly incentive for individuals to refrain from doing so, but the number of Jehovah's Witnesses claiming to be anointed has never been even slightly difficult to reconcile with the total of 144,000 (even though there are seven million active Witnesses).

Ironically, while Jehovah's Witnesses have been hounded for decades about interpreting 144,000 as a literal number, there is little else about their theology that rests upon that teaching. Primarily, Jehovah's Witnesses focus on the bible truth that only a limited number are resurrected to heaven, while most humans have an earthly hope.

The matter is rather logical when one recognizes that God's Kingdom is a GOVERNMENT. The anointed are brought to heaven as administrators (heavenly kings and priests), and are intended to understand the subjects (those on earth).

...(Daniel 2:44) God of heaven will set up a kingdom... It will crush and put an end to all these kingdoms, and it itself will stand to times indefinite
...(Revelation 14:1) Lamb [Jesus] standing upon the Mount Zion, and with him a hundred and forty-four thousand
...(Revelation 20:6) they will be priests of God and of the Christ, and will rule as kings with him
...(Luke 12:32) Have no fear, LITTLE FLOCK [with a heavenly hope], because your Father has approved of giving you the kingdom [rulership alongside the Christ] [caps added]
...(John 10:16) And I [Jesus] have OTHER SHEEP, which are not of this fold; those also I must bring [to be subjects of the kingdom] [caps added]

Learn more:
http://watchtower.org/e/20001001/article_02.htm
http://watchtower.org/e/20001001/
http://watchtower.org/e/jt/

2007-10-17 07:45:03 · answer #1 · answered by achtung_heiss 7 · 4 0

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2016-10-07 02:42:32 · answer #2 · answered by belvin 4 · 0 0

There is no such thing as the "rapture." That is an evangelical fiction. The idea that God is going to 'beam up' Christians while they go about their daily affairs is a fantasy.

The truth is that all anointed Christians must die first in order to receive their heavenly reward. And more than likely, those living during the tribulation when the resurrection commences, will face violent deaths at the hands of rabid persecutors. That's hardly what fundamentalists teach about Christians being raptured before the tribulation and leaving everyone else behind to be destroyed.

In the two places in the Bible where Paul discussed the resurrection of the saints, he merely stated that those who die before Christ's presence are resurrected first; then, those who are living during the presence are resurrected as they die—meaning that they do not have to sleep in death awaiting a resurrection.

So, when Paul referred to "we the living" being caught away in the twinkling of an eye to meet Christ in the clouds, he was not saying that Christians would be bodily levitated from the earth—as many wrongly suppose.

Paul said of the anointed: "We shall not all fall asleep in death, but we shall all be changed, in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye." Notice, that Paul is contrasting those who sleep in death and those who do not.

But, just because those living during the presence of Christ do not sleep in death does not mean that they do not die. Their not sleeping simply means that they do not stay in a death-like state for any period like their anointed predecessors. Instead, they are instantaneously resurrected—"in the twinkling of an eye."

2007-10-17 09:09:35 · answer #3 · answered by keiichi 6 · 3 0

THE BIBLE IS JEHOVAH'S WITNESS

John 6:39,40,44 [ the raised up at the last day to be with Jesus at his second coming ]; John 14:3 [ Jesus went to prepare a place for then of John 17:1-26; that where he is there they may be also ]; Matt.22:42-44; Acts 2:27-35; Heb.1:1-13; All these scriptures must be fulfilled and the raised up will have
enemies Satan and 1/3 unholy angels under their feet, Rom.16:20 And the God of peace shall bruise Satan under your feet shortly. The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you. Amen. , when Satan is cast down by Michael of Jude 9; in Dan.12:1-13; in the time of the end, at Rev: 3,4,6-11,12; SATAN HAS A SHORT TIME IN THE END TIME UNDER THEIR FEET TO THE END.

Michael is there to the last, 1Thes.4:15-17; the caught up to be with Jesus at his coming.

Rev.20:1-6; no Satan 1000 years, Rev.3:12; the heavenly for the new heavens are with Jesus Heb.12:22-24; Mark 13:27; Luke 20:34-36;
Rev.20:12,13; 1Cor.15:22-28; The firstfruits, the first resurrected, the
raised up in the last days, the caught up to be with Jesus at his coming, the gathered from the heavens and earth caught up to him on Zion the rock that can stumble Rom.9:33; 11:26; 1Pet.1:15,16,23; 2:5-9; Rev.14:1-7 [ Total ];
Rev.21:1-5; Gal.4:26; 2Pet.3:13 [ the new heavens and new earth ]; Coming down out of heaven from God to make all things as new as before Eden. [ Rev.21:8; 20:7-10; THESE DO NOT MAKE IT ]; All possible is SAVED into THE KINGDOM OF GOD AND HIS PARADISE Rev.2:7; Luke 23:43;

2007-10-17 07:06:11 · answer #4 · answered by jeni 7 · 3 0

As soon as they died they are resurrected but not his soul but themself with and spiritual body

1 Corithians 15:50 "However, this I say, brothers, that flesh and blood cannot inherit God’s kingdom, neither does corruption inherit incorruption. 51 Look! I tell YOU a sacred secret: We shall not all fall asleep [in death], but we shall all be changed, 52 in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, during the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised up incorruptible, and we shall be changed. 53 For this which is corruptible must put on incorruption, and this which is mortal must put on immortality. 54 But when [this which is corruptible puts on incorruption and] this which is mortal puts on immortality, then the saying will take place that is written: “Death is swallowed up forever"

in the same chapter but verse 44 "It is sown a physical body, it is raised up a spiritual body. If there is a physical body, there is also a spiritual one"

of course that happened after Jesus began to rule among his enemies as the bible said in Psalm 110:1.

that happened when the prophecy of Daniel 7 (Seven times finished) and after trhe war in heaven that satan was expelled, is not the date of Armageddon that is unknow.

2007-10-17 06:41:51 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 5 0

Amazing the answers about JW's be those who have no idea of what they believe or teach.
They have the same bible as everybody else but an understanding far beyond the average so called Christians.

2007-10-18 01:33:03 · answer #6 · answered by pestie58 the spider hunter 6 · 2 0

Harpazo = Rapture

END-TIME BIBLE PROPHECY

The Messiah Lord Jesus said BIRTH PANGS would signal the time of the end (Matthew 24:8). There are NINE birth pangs, they are all PRE-TRIBULATIONAL and the 1st three already occurred.

The first birth pang was worldwide conflict coupled with famines and earthquakes (Matthew 24:7-8). Worldwide conflict was fulfilled in 1914-1918, major famines happened in 1918-1921 and most of the world’s major earthquakes began to occur since 1900.

The second birth pang was the restoration of a Jewish State (Ezekiel 20:33-38; Ezekiel 22:17-22; Ezekiel 36:22-24; Zephaniah 2:1-2). This was fulfilled in 1948.

The third birth pang was Jewish control of the Old City of Jerusalem (Revelation 11:1-2). For the third Jewish Temple (Tribulation Temple) to be rebuilt, Jerusalem needs to be under Jewish control and this was accomplished in the Six Day War in 1967.

The fourth birth pang will be the Ezekiel 38 war. Russia, allied states of Iran, Ethiopia, Somalia, Germany and Armenia will invade Israel. God will miraculously destroy the invading army by earthquake, civil war among the invading soldiers, pestilence, blood, flood, hailstones, fire and brimstone. This will bring a revival in Israel where many Jews will turn to the Lord, and Israel will spend 7 years and 7 months burying the bodies and burning for fuel the military equipment left behind (Ezekiel 39:9-16).

The 5th birth pang will be the development of a one world government (Daniel 7:23-24).

The 6th birth pang will be the splitting of the one world government into 10 kingdoms and this Ten Kingdom Stage will continue until mid-Tribulation (Daniel 7:24).

The 7th birth pang will be the revelation of the Antichrist (II Thessalonians 2:1-3; Daniel 7:24).

The 8th birth pang will be a period of peace and false security that will be shattered by the Tribulation (1 Thessalonians 5:1-3).

The 9th and final birth pang before the Tribulation is the signing of the 7-year covenant between Israel and the Antichrist. THIS EVENT IS WHAT BEGINS THE (7-year) TRIBULATION - NOT THE RAPTURE!

The Rapture of the Church (1 Thessalonians 4:16-18) is also a pre-tribulational event (Luke 21:34-37; 1 Thessalonians 1:9-10; 1 Thessalonians 5:1-10; Revelation 3:10; Revelation 19:6-8). The fact that the Church is not mentioned in any of the Tribulation Scriptures proves the Rapture is pre-tribulational. All raptured Christians will receive glorified bodies (Romans 8:22-23; 1 Corinthians 15:50-54)) and it can happen at any second.


THE FIRST HALF OF THE TRIBULATION (SUPPORTING VERSES IN REVELATION 6-9 AND 17)

The Ministry of 144,000 sealed Jewish believers will bring many throughout the world to accept Christ.

There will be a powerful Ministry of Two Witnesses who will also be anointed Jewish believers.

A one world religious system (Babylon the Harlot) will rule. Under this one world religious system, many who are saved during the Tribulation will suffer persecution and death.

The Political system of the 10 kings of the one world government will continue.

During the first half of the Tribulation there will also be war, worldwide famine, death (1/4 of the world’s population will die), a huge earthquake, a blackout and a meteor shower. 1/3 of earth’s dry surface will be destroyed, 1/3 sea life and salt water will be destroyed, a fallen angel called Wormwood will make 1/3 of earth’s fresh water bitter, 1/3 of earth’s natural light sources will be destroyed, there will be another blackout and demons in the form of “locust-scorpions” will come up out of the abyss led by Abaddon their king and they will inflict harm and pain for five months upon those who are not sealed by God (unbelievers). Another demonic invasion will occur and the demons involved will be led by four fallen angels who will be released from the Euphrates River and this army will kill 1/3 of the earth’s population.


MID-TRIBULATION (SUPPORTING VERSES IN REVELATION 10-14 AND 17)

The Antichrist will war against the 10 kings, and during the war the Antichrist will be killed.

Satan will be cast out of the atmospheric heavens onto earth and will resurrect the Antichrist.

The Antichrist will kill 3 kings (the kings of Syria, Egypt and Mesopotamia) and the 7 other kings will submit to him.

The Antichrist will kill the Two Witnesses in Jerusalem and the wicked people will celebrate this event. Three and a half days afterwards, God will resurrect the Two Witnesses and take them up to Heaven and the people who celebrated will become terrified. The city of Jerusalem where the murder of the Two Witnesses occurred will then suffer an earthquake which will kill 7,000 people.

The False Prophet will receive from Satan the power to perform great miracles and will deceive many. The False Prophet will command all people to worship the Antichrist and have persons create an image to the Antichrist. The False Prophet will use his satanic powers to give it life and the ability to speak. The False Prophet will cause those who refuse to worship the Antichrist and the image to be killed.

The False Prophet will issue his own counterfeit seal known as the Mark of the Beast and it will be placed on all those who surrender to the Antichrist’s authority and accept him as god. Those who refuse to take this mark will not be able to buy or sell. Those who take this mark will spend eternity in the Lake of Fire.

The Antichrist will break the seven-year covenant he made with Israel, cause the sacrifices to stop, sit in the Jewish Temple, declare to the world that he is really God and set up an idol called the Abomination of Desolation in the Temple (Daniel 9:27; Daniel 12:11; Matthew 24:15-16; 11Thessalonians 2:3-4; Revelation 13:11-15).

Through the Antichrist and the False Prophet, Satan will attempt to destroy the Jews once and for all but he will fail because 1/3 of the Jews will succeed in fleeing into the wilderness. These Jews who escape will accept the Lord Jesus as their Saviour during the Tribulation (Zechariah 13:7-9) and while they are in hiding, God will miraculously provide for them (Zechariah 13:8-9; Isaiah 41:17-20). Divine intervention will also destroy the pursuing army.


THE SECOND HALF OF THE TRIBULATION (SUPPORTING VERSES FOUND IN REVELATION 15, 16, 18, 19, 20)

In the second half of the Tribulation, those with the Mark of the Beast will suffer skin sores, the remainder of sea water and fresh water will be destroyed, the sun will cause terrible burns and the wicked will blaspheme God. There will be yet another blackout and persons will suffer gnawing pains.

Babylon will be the center of world economy and political system but Babylon will be swiftly destroyed by fire and become uninhabitable for man.

The Antichrist will locate the Jews who sought refuge in the wilderness and surround them with his armies to wipe them out. The Lord Jesus will then descend from Heaven with His angels and Saints. He will come with great glory riding upon a horse and will destroy the Antichrist, the False Prophet and all of their armies. After this, a loud voice will cry out “It is done!” followed by the greatest earthquake in the earth’s history and hail weighing 120 pounds will fall.

At the end of the Tribulation, there will be another blackout, the stars will fall from the sky and the heavenly bodies will be shaken (Matthew 24:29), the Antichrist and the False Prophet will be thrown into the eternal Lake of Fire and Satan will be cast into the Abyss and bound for 1,000 years.


THE MILLENNIUM

The Lord Jesus will reign over the entire earth during the Millennium. The Jewish and Gentile believers who survive the Tribulation will go on to populate the Millennium. Believers who died before and during the Tribulation and believers who were raptured will be present on earth during the Millennium and because they will have glorified bodies they will not reproduce. All believers will be given special tasks by the Lord Jesus (Revelation 20:4-6). There will be no wars (Isaiah 2:2-4), animals will return to the Edenic state and become vegetarians (Isaiah 11:6-9), people will not labour in vain but eat what they plant and inhabit what they build, there will be renovations in the heavens and earth and there will be righteous and unrighteous children born during the Millennium (Isaiah 65:17-25).

At the end of the Millennium, Satan will be loosed from the Abyss and will deceive and gather the unrighteous for a war against the righteous. This will be his final attempt to destroy the righteous and when the unrighteous of the Millennium surround the good people, God will send fire down from Heaven which will suddenly and massively annihilate all of the wicked people. Satan will then be cast into the Lake of Fire where he will remain in torment for eternity (Revelation 20:7-10).


THE GREAT WHITE THRONE JUDGMENT

The Great White Throne Judgment will be the next main event. The old heavens and earth will be done away with and all will stand before God’s throne to be judged (Revelation 20:11-12). Those whose names are not found written in the Book of Life will be cast into the Lake of Fire which will be their final and eternal abode (Revelation 20:14-15).


THE ETERNAL ORDER (REVELATION 21 AND 22)

Those whose names are found in the Book of Life will enjoy paradise with God forever. The heavens and earth will be made new and the New Jerusalem will come down upon the earth making the earth like Heaven. All curses from the fall will be removed and the earth will be inhabited by the Triune God (The Father, Son and Holy Spirit), all angels and all of the righteous. The seas, moon, night and sun will be done away with and the glory of God will illuminate the earth. The River of Life will flow from God’s throne, the Tree of Life will bear health-giving fruits and leaves and the name of Jesus will be on the foreheads of all of the righteous.


God’s Plan of Salvation for Us
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZkDk1GZ7do

2015-03-21 05:31:15 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

How do you know the 144,000 places in heaven aren't already taken by say people who lived 2000 years ago?

I hate to think I'm screwed out of heaven just because my number wasn't called. Thank gawd I'm not a Jehovah's Witnesses.

2007-10-17 06:40:33 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0 8

Heaven and Hell, Judgement,...are these all real? Who knows?

But then, who doesn't? Try living 'right' and following Jesus Christ's teachings,... You probably would have nothing to lose!

2007-10-17 06:45:53 · answer #9 · answered by Teedaddy 3 · 1 3

Read Revelation, the 144,000 is really 12,000 from the 12 tribes of Israel. They are saved to rule and reign with Jesus for the 1000 year period.

2007-10-17 06:43:02 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 2 6

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