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And tell be what keys to play to make those cords.
Ten Points! :)

2007-10-17 04:14:27 · 4 answers · asked by Anonymous in Arts & Humanities Performing Arts

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All of the replies given are accurate, but Fred V's response has additional merit, albeit it is a display of high egotism, self-worth, condescension toward others, and a horrid display of proper English and creative writing.

His keyboard and music theory knowledge is exemplary in his answer and I have found use for this information as a serious guitarist. I play just enough piano to be dangerous, but as a serious writer I must move beyond his breezy method of explaining the concept of piano chords to the less intellectual.

I might add that to form a Cm chord the following notes must be used in any inversion: C, Eb, and G.

2007-10-17 07:08:55 · answer #1 · answered by Guitarpicker 7 · 0 0

There are a large number of chords playable on the piano, in fact, all of the common guitar chords found in books like GM7 can be played on the piano.

The piano chording system follows the Major keys, and every Major Key has the same basic patterns and all are based on the interval.

Here's the basics and we'll pick the neutral key of C Major. I could have used C# Major with seven sharps or Gb Major with six flats and the same basic chords would apply. In reality, as I am a composer of the 12 tone and chromatic school, there is in actuality almost an infinity of chord combinations.

But here are the commonest ones in C Major including the modern Jazz or advanced chordings and the notes played.
Note: in music theory a chord MUST have Three or more notes. There is, therefore, no such thing as a two note chord.
A C plus a G does not constitute a chord but a perfect fifth interval. The Fifth is an ambiguous interval and really should have been called the "ambiguous" fifth and not a "perfect" fifth. Why perfect fifths, but not perfect thirds or sevenths? Ask the theoretical blockheads in English speaking countries that created their cumbersome system.

But any way: here it is starting with the triads and moving up (and remember you can do this in any of the Major Keys which cycling fifths are C, G, D, A, E, F#, C# all sharp keys C Major being a pivot or neutral key. Cycling downwards we have F, Bb, Eb, Ab, Db, Gb Cb all the flat majors.

In reality, despite all the retards who imagine otherwise, the Minor keys are not independent and really belong to their repsective Major and represent in reality a perturbation or convolution of the MODES of the Major keys. The Aeolian Mode is the typical Natural Minor. A minor in reality is an alteration of C Major and belongs to C and the other known minors like Harmonic, Melodic were bascially created in the middle ages as church modulations like the Melodic minor whioch is easier to sing than either Natural or Harmonic.
But as a piano composer of high rank and theorist of the 12 tone or Chromatic school which simplifies matters by the fact that in reality, for the piano at least, there exists only a SINGLE key, the Chromatic and all the traditional majors and minors belong to it and are perturbations of the Chromatic and follow very simple mathematical formulae.

Here are the C Major triads with the lowest note coming first.

C E G Simple Major or CM
(a C E G C' ) would be CM +8 and is essentially the exact same harmony as doubling a note by octaving it changes NOTHING, nor does the order of the notes. E G C is still a CM chord in the 1st inversion, that's all. But I'll forget the multitude of inversions especially when dealing with four, five and six note chords. Yes, my unadvanced amico, it is possible to play six note chords (with one hand) on the piano and with two hands create chords with ten or more notes involving chords so advanced that they are merely described numerically and have no official names in any system.
In the 12 tone school, there is NO SUCH THING AS AN ILLEGAL harmony.

C Eb G would be a C min triad, nothing more, nothing less.
C D# F# (or Gb) a simple C dim (some schools C E F#)
C E G#( or Ab) an Aug or C Aug or C+
C F G is the simple Sus 4 in most systems (but in the 12 tone system or chromatic system an 11th chord with most of the supporting cast eliminated.

C D G is in reality a 9th (with the supporting cast eliminated) as a full traditional 9th chord (Major) would be C E G B D in that order, but remember ORDER makes no bloody difference! But C D G is often just written C5+2 in some systems like the Juliard system, that cumbersome and inadequate theoretical lmonstrosity that is forced on American musicians like it or not.

C E A is? Oh you guessed it A C E or a simple A minor triad in its 1st inversion!! Ha ha.

But what about C E G A? Oh that's usually called a CM+6 or added sixth. Remember in Mozart's day the sixth was a Dissonant harmony! It was like a bit gauche! A bit raw. A bit daring? But 5ths are harsher than sixths! Which gives to a strange fact. What on earth is C G C? if you played it with its rather eerie and oriental like sound especially if you play a number of chords like that [See my piece Japonica, the mini concerto in my website http://www.musicofthegods.com for and example of what you can do with the C Amb chord (C 5 +8 Juliard system). I call it C Amb for Ambiguous. You know its a C harmony no doubt, but is it Major? no. It is minor? no, it is stuck in limbo. Is it a 7th? might become one. a 9th? Actually, this chord can be perturbed easily into just about anything. Adding the E, the important supporting cast will tell you if this stinker is a minor or major! C E G C is just a CMaj +8 C Eb G C would be a Cmin +8, but C G C D can only be a blooy 9th, but now its an AMBIGUOUS 9th and sounds rather like psychedelic!

But the groviest of all chords are Scriabin's beloved "mystic" or divine chord created instead of a bunch of stupid thirds, the harsher but crisper fourth intervals like this:

A mystic C Myst: C F Bb D G

A "royal" chord (one of my favs). a chord of all 5ths including a 5th of vodka if possible:

like C G D' A' E'' (which would be quite a feat for one hand!) is a C Royal in my parlance. If the all fourth chord is "divine" and "mystic" maybe this one is "royal" and "infernal" and belongs to the Prince of Darkness? Hahahah!

But so much for the boring triads, but oops I forgot CDE, that's right the first three white keys from middle see played together therefore must be a chord. I could have added a G and played CDEG (a 9th in reality with more of the supporting cast showing up for the theatre), but CDE is a puzzler and in all likelyhood, also CM9 but of a very cut back and blasted variety of little musical value. Or you could call it a Major Third plus 2. Who cares? That's why theorists usually (but not always) make crappy composers and are incapable of creating any music worth listening too!

So let's get to the more exciting seventh chords (some of which I bet You've never heard of)....

C E G B the famous Major 7th or CM7
C Eb G B the not so famous Minor-Major 7th
C Eb G Bb the famous minor 7th or Cm7
C E G Bb the very popular Dominant 7th or C7 or C Dom
C Eb Gb Bb the bloody half diminished or C 0 with a line through the 0 which I can't do here like a Swedish 0!!
C Eb Gb Bbb(A) or C D# F# A (in your mind) the Diminished 7th so called despite the largest interval appearing to be a SIXTH! C O

C E G#(Ab) B C+7 or C Aug 7 capisce?


Now for some fun.

C E G B D A Major 9th or C M 9
C Eb G Bb D A minor 9th C m 9
C E G B D F A major 11th or C M 11 or C11
C Eb G Bb D F obviously a minor 11th
C E G B D F A the highest chord possible, a 13th. But there are dozens of 13ths (most of which sound awful).

Notice someting peculiar about the vast majority of these common chords?

They are constructed merely of minor or major thirds placed atop one another.

A simple C Maj triad has the interval a minor third atop a Major third. (Mathematically) T+2+1.5

A simple C minor triad has a major third atop a minor third!

Take a C7 remember C E G Bb or Major third plus minor third plus another minor third.

A C Aug triad is TWO bloody Major thirds! so it sounds rather groovy....

A C Aug 7 is two Majors + a minor! so what about THREE major thirds atop each other....

C to E to G# to C or C E G# C which doubles the 1st C and is just a C Aug +8 the +8 means (added octaves).

Some students, even some teachers with degrees are simply just plain dumb.

Observe this large chord played on a piano.

Left Hand

Eb G C Eb

Right hand Bb C G Bb

What is it? For all the notes and the order it is just a very
LARGE C minor 7th chord even tho' the lowest note is an Eb.

The fact that the only notes used are C Eb G and Bb make it a minor 7th. (The order of the notes or duplication of any note by making octaves makes NO difference to the harmony, but it does affect the quality of the sound. Doubling a note intensifies it.

E G C sounds different from CEG but is the same harmony. The E in the low or tonic position makes the E Strong and the C in the high position is made weak. Still this is no E harmony but still a C Major harmony. But E G B does not belong to C Major( but adding a C easily makes it so) E G B would be an E minor triad. Sharping the G would make it an E major triad.

I'll not deal with the infinite ways ANY chord by perturbation can be turned into any OTHER chord in ANY key you like, you just alter one of the THIRD intervals virtually all chords are created out of.

Hope this helps, but it probalby won't.

C Eb G B D a really groovy sounding chord?
or
C E G Bb D F well that's a C Dom 11 of course!

How about this bloody bastard

C E Ab Bb Db F A well it has a creepy groovy sound, but this stinker has no name but is a perturabtion of a 13th or does it perhaps belong to some other KEY?

2007-10-17 05:18:23 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

the best way to remember your chords is Fat Cats Get Down After Eating Birds. FCGDAEB is the order of the sharps in scales. the easiest chord would be C. with no sharps, just white keys. then G chord with F sharp. the next chord has FandC sharp. the next chord has FCandG sharp. the next has FCGandD sharp. making sense?

2007-10-17 04:26:57 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

c-major: c, e, g.; d-major: d, f # , a.; e-major: e, g#, b.; f-major: f, a, c.; g-major: g, b, d.; a-major: a, c#, e.; b-major: b, d#, f#.
Check out, if you can play the chords on the piano. It's really easy! You'll see!

2007-10-17 04:27:24 · answer #4 · answered by sunny 1 · 1 0

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