The word begotten has been removed from all Gospels by the same bible scholars as fabrication after they realized that this word does not exist in the most ancient manuscript.
•John A-V {3:16} For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. (This word does not exist anymore in all Gospels in the RSV), so Jesus is not any more begotten by God where we find others still alleged to be begotten sons of God according to the bible. examples:
- David was a begotten son of God long before Jesus (according to the bible). Psalms A-V {2:7} I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou [art] my Son; this day have I begotten thee.
- Israel was a begotten son of God long before Jesus (according to the bible). Exodus A-V {4:22} And thou shalt say unto Pharaoh, Thus saith the LORD, Israel [is] my son, [even] my firstborn:
2007-10-17
02:05:30
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So the term Son of God in the language of the Jews means godly person not actual son of God and does not mean divinity at all, examples:
- All Jews are sons of God (according to the bible). Psalms A-V {82:6} I have said, Ye [are] gods; and all of you [are] children of the most High.
- All those who follow the spirit of God are sons of God (according to the bible). Romans A-V {8:14} For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
2007-10-17
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That is the biggest problem the Jewish community has with the Trinity, However, they are waiting for the coming of Jesus {1st time around} while we are waiting for the second coming
But there are 2 different Sects. of Jews
2007-10-17 02:10:49
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answered by Anonymous
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About Psalms 2:7 ---The king thus constituted declares the fundamental law of His kingdom, in the avowal of His Sonship, a relation involving His universal dominion.
this day have I begotten thee--as 2 Samuel 7:14, "he shall be My son," is a solemn recognition of this relation. The interpretation of this passage to describe the inauguration of Christ as Mediatorial King, by no means impugns the Eternal Sonship of His divine nature. In Acts 13:33, Paul's quotation does not imply an application of this passage to the resurrection; for "raised up" in Acts 13:33 is used as in Acts 2:30, 3:22, &c., to denote bringing Him into being as a man; and not that of resurrection, which it has only when, as in Acts 2:34, allusion is made to His death (Romans 1:4). That passage says He was declared as to His divine nature to be the Son of God, by the resurrection, and only teaches that that event manifested a truth already existing. A similar recognition of His Sonship is introduced in Hebrews 5:5, by these ends, and by others in Matthew 3:17, 17:5.
Clearly Exodus 4:22 is speaking in a figurative sense since Isreal stood for a whole nation at the time. The whole nation was like a firstborn son to him. He had set them apart and had nurtured them and they worshipped him. The firstborn son recieved all the blessings and inheiritance from the father.
For more info on the Jesus as a begotten Son of God, read the verses mentioned above in regards to Psalms 2:7.
2007-10-17 02:51:09
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answered by MrMyers 5
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I just looked up John 3:16 in 21 different versions (gotta love biblegateway.com, for making that possible), AND looked it up on e sword, which has the KJV with the original Hebrew and Greek.
In all 21 versions, the Greek word μονογενής or monogenēs (which means "only born, that is, sole: - only (begotten, child)" according to Strong's Hebrew and Greek dictionary) was translated as "begotten" or "one and only." Very few omitted that part...and I'm more inclined to believe the versions that went back to the original Greek (like the NIV, which used the oldest manuscripts available for the whole thing). The oldest manuscript of John dates back to around 125 A.D. and includes the term "begotten" so I don't believe this was something added later.
Nice try.
2007-10-17 02:21:07
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answered by The_Cricket: Thinking Pink! 7
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Jesus was the Christ. The one being awaited for the second coming.
But the son of man?! That is not Jesus. He is some one Jews and Christians have ignored for so long.
He is the Corner stone that was despised by masons. The establish-er of the kingdom of God on earth.
The keeper of the Heavenly laws as they are. some one written all over the Old Testament with enough evidence but purposely interpreted in wrong way.
Some one who would come around the mount Selah(Google it).
Who would demolish Idols.....
Who is namely MUHAMMAD.
Peace!!!!
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answered by abdulhafiz 1
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The nation of Israel is called God's son many places in the Bible. As in, “When Israel was a child, I loved him, and out of Egypt have I called my son.”
2007-10-18 15:24:21
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answered by mo mosh 6
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The newer translation say "Only Son of God" this conflicts with Gen 6:2 where Adam is also called Son of God.
The Bible clearly says that Jesus is God, many times.
begotten Son means Biological, but we are Son's (Children) of God adopted by the Blood of Jesus.
2007-10-17 02:22:31
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answered by brian 2
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God has asked us to believe in Jesus to have eternal life. There is no salvation if you believe in David, Abraham, Moses, Isaac, Jacob and other prophets. Psalms 2 is all about messiah, and is referring to revelation chapter 2. Adam is a son of god, but adam was made from dust and returned to dust. Adam cannot give us eternal life. No man can give us eternal life, but Jesus. Jesus was not made from dust, instead he came from the glory of heaven. John 3:36 ,whoever believes in son has eternal life.
2015-08-31 01:32:02
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answered by tim 1
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Read this link and weep:
http://www.bythebible.page.tl/Jesus-The-Man.htm
Read the scriptures below in regard to Ps 2, it is not about David as Muslims erroneously teach, and weep some more:
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Psalm 2:1-2 2 Why have the nations been in tumult And the national groups themselves kept muttering an empty thing? 2 The kings of earth take their stand. . .
Revelation 19:19 And I saw the wild beast and the kings of the earth and their armies gathered together to wage the war with the one seated on the horse and with his army.
Psalm 48:4 4 For, look! the kings themselves have met by appointment, They have passed by together.
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Psalm 2:2 . . .Against Jehovah and against his anointed one,
Luke 4:18 "Jehovah's spirit is upon me, because he anointed me to declare good news to the poor, he sent me forth to preach a release to the captives and a recovery of sight to the blind, to send the crushed ones away with a release,
Matthew 16:16 . . .In answer Simon Peter said: "You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.. . .
Mark 1:34 . . ., but he would not let the demons speak, because they knew him to be Christ.
Mark 14:61-62 . . .Again the high priest began to question him and said to him: "Are you the Christ the Son of the Blessed One?" 62 Then Jesus said: "I am; and YOU persons will see the Son of man sitting at the right hand of power and coming with the clouds of heaven.". .
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Psalm 2:6-7 6 [Saying:] "I, even I, have installed my king Upon Zion, my holy mountain." 7 Let me refer to the decree of Jehovah; He has said to me: "You are my son; I, today, I have become your father.
Daniel 7:13-14 13 "I kept on beholding in the visions of the night, and, see there! with the clouds of the heavens someone like a son of man happened to be coming; and to the Ancient of Days he gained access, and they brought him up close even before that One. 14 And to him there were given rulership and dignity and kingdom, that the peoples, national groups and languages should all serve even him. His rulership is an indefinitely lasting rulership that will not pass away, and his kingdom one that will not be brought to ruin.
Revelation 11:15 . . ."The kingdom of the world did become the kingdom of our Lord and of his Christ, and he will rule as king forever and ever."
Hebrews 2:8-9 8 All things you subjected under his feet." For in that he subjected all things to him [God] left nothing that is not subject to him. Now, though, we do not yet see all things in subjection to him; 9 but we behold Jesus, who has been made a little lower than angels, crowned with glory and honor for having suffered death, that he by God's undeserved kindness might taste death for every [man].
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"You are my son; I, today, I have become your father.
Hebrews 1:5-6 . . .And again: "I myself shall become his father, and he himself will become my son"? 6 But when he again brings his Firstborn into the inhabited earth. . .
Hebrews 5:5 . . .So too the Christ did not glorify himself by becoming a high priest, but [was glorified by him] who spoke with reference to him: "You are my son; I, today, I have become your father.. . .
Colossians 1:15 . . .He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation;
Matthew 16:16 16 In answer Simon Peter said: "You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.. . .
Matthew 3:16-17 . . .dove God's spirit coming upon him. 17 Look! Also, there was a voice from the heavens that said: "This is my Son, the beloved, whom I have approved."
John 1:14 14 So the Word became flesh and resided among us, and we had a view of his glory, a glory such as belongs to an only-begotten son from a father; and he was full of undeserved kindness and truth.
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Psalm 2:8 8 Ask of me, that I may give nations as your inheritance And the ends of the earth as your own possession.
Matthew 25:32 And all the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate people one from another, just as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats.
Psalm 72:8 And he will have subjects from sea to sea And from the River to the ends of the earth.
Hebrews 1:2 has at the end of these days spoken to us by means of a Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, and through whom he made the systems of things.
2007-10-17 02:54:42
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answered by Fuzzy 7
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This topic is worth everyone's attention
2016-08-26 03:18:20
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answered by Anonymous
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Jesus is Alahh
Jesus is God
Jesus the king of kings
Jesus said there will be a lot of liers ( false ) after him
Jesus loves U
2007-10-17 02:14:41
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answered by Dr. Wassef 4
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