It began hundreds of years ago, when the Church changed the Bible. . .
The "New Testament": Pagan revenge
Between G-d's own miracles and the Jewish teaching of His Word, the pagan priest/pastorhoods of Egypt, Greece, and Rome were steadily losing their power over the gentile populations. They decided to fight back by creating a new religion, one that would claim to be the fulfillment of the Hebrew "Old Testament," yet would bring back the pagan lies in a new disguise.
Thus the "New Testament" was written, in Greek rather than Hebrew, and attached to the original Hebrew scriptures to try to change their meaning back toward paganism.
The "New Testament" tried to change G-d from One, as in the Hebrew scriptures, into a "trinity" as in Egyptian cults or the eastern religions of Hinduism and Buddhism. It described Jesus as G-d in a human body, like the pagans always described Pharoah and other wicked kings. It declared G-d's Law to be a "curse" that no one can truly obey, announced that there must be a "mediator" between G-d and man, and pretended that salvation could now be achieved outside the Law.
To blind the gentile nations, the "New Testament" also warned people not to learn from the Jews, declaring that Israel no longer possessed the true, complete Word of G-d.
In the Bible, the book of Daniel warned of an evil power--a false religion--that would believe in the true "G-d of fortresses... plus a god its fathers did not know." This religion would "speak bizarre words about the Most High, wear out the holy ones (the Jews), and plan to change the festivals and the religious Law."7 The Christian Church has indeed replaced Passover with Easter (the pagan holiday of Astarte and Ishtar) and Hanukah with Christmas (the pagan winter holiday).
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Jewish Ruling concerning Christianity :
"...according to the known Jewish ruling that Christians are idol worshippers." (Likkutei Sichos 37:198)
http://www.noahide.com/infiltration/xmas.htm
2007-10-16 19:12:17 · 19 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
The Jews denied the deity of Christ. This should be obvious it is the reason there are Christians. Why would you concern yourself with this if you are not a Jew or a Christian? The Jews rejected Christ as Messiah if Christ is someone who concerns you then the Jews were apparently WRONG!
If you believe in Jesus then believe what Jesus said.
You can believe the Jews or Jesus but obviously not both.
John 9:35 Jesus heard that they had cast him out; and when he had found him, he said unto him, Dost thou believe on the Son of God?
36 He answered and said, Who is he, Lord, that I might believe on him?
37 And Jesus said unto him, Thou hast both seen him, and it is he that talketh with thee.
38 And he said, Lord, I believe. And he worshipped him.
Mat. 16:15 He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am?
16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.
17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Bar-jona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.
John 14: 6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the away, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
7 If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.
8 Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us.
9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?
10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.
John 10:24 Then came the Jews round about him, and said unto him, How long dost thou make us to doubt? If thou be the Christ, tell us plainly.
25 Jesus answered them, I told you, and ye believed not: the works that I do in my Father’s name, they bear witness of me.
26 But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you.
27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father’s hand.
30 I and my Father are one.
John 8:54 Jesus answered, If I honour myself, my honour is nothing: it is my Father that honoureth me; of whom ye say, that he is your God:
55 Yet ye have not known him; but I know him: and if I should say, I know him not, I shall be a liar like unto you: but I know him, and keep his saying.
56 Your father Abraham brejoiced to csee my day: and he saw it, and was glad.
57 Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham?
58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
59 Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by.
If you believe Jesus believe what he tells you.
Jesus and the Father are one.
Jesus is the Son of God.
The Father and the Son are one.
Jesus said he was I am.
I am is God.
Jesus is the Son of God a part of the whole of God that was in the begining with God.
John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2 The same was in the beginning with God.
3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.
6 There was a man sent from God, whose name was John.
7 The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe.
8 He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light.
9 That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.
10 He was in the world, and thebworld was made by him, and the world knew him not.
11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not.
12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
Please answer if you choose to believe in Jesus why would you choose not to believe Jesus?
You have a choice to believe the Jews or believe Jesus.
2007-10-16 19:19:32 · answer #1 · answered by djmantx 7 · 7⤊ 5⤋
I agree with you. In fact, I would go further: why do SO many Christians insist that our faiths are similar when ideologically, they are poles apart? Christianity began as a dissident Jewish sect. But as this religion spread through the Roman empire, and especially once Jesus was deified, then at THAT point, the religions split apart forever. For us as Jews, G-d is G-d and man is man - they never 'merge'. The mere idea that G-d would take human form is BLASPHEMY. Jews believe that all humans are the children of G-d. Christianity has evolved a totally different belief system. It has taken the Jewish scriptures, MIStranslated them, REinterpreted them and also the concept of messiah, and now insists that we as Jews 'missed' or were too 'stubborn' to recognise our own messiah! Talk about arrogance! Why don't more Christians accept that the very notion of 'messiah' is a JEWISH one. The JEWISH messianic prophecies were written by JEWS, for JEWS. We as Jews use accurately translated Hebrew. In short, we understand OUR scriptures. But no. Many Christians maintain that Judaism is 'irrelevant'. Charming. The Jewish and Christian G-d is not the same G-d. How can it be, when Christians believe in the trinity? When they believe that G-d was made flesh in Jesus? And to those people who keep cheerfully stating that Jews regard Jesus as a prophet - no, we don't. We never did. We never will. CATALIZ - BUT you've just gone and missed the vital point! In Judaism there is NO such idea as the 'suffering' messiah! That is a CHRISTIAN concept. CATALIZ AGAIN***********************************... You totally ignored what I said. The Jewish concept of messiah does not include ANY 'suffering' messiah. You are using a MIStranslation of the Torah. Kindly don't tell ME as a Jew what my religion doesn't 'understand' about OUR OWN SCRIPTURES.
2016-05-23 03:02:49 · answer #2 · answered by ? 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Greetings!
People SHOULD get together, and talk about what vexes them, and contribute to the conversaton.
Like this comment:
"I believe the New Testament was written by men who actually knew Jesus, not by some Pagan high priesthood."
Well, those guys TOOK the Names of Men who knew Jesus, they WERE Pagans who joined up with Paul(who took a Name himself), and if you actually read your Book, none of them say they WALKED with Jesus, but that they DREAMED of Jesus.
The Nag Hammadi Scrolls were hidden from other Christians, Roman, Greek, and other Gentiles, in order to preserve that which was not in line with the New Religion-like the Book of Mary.
Modern Jews are much more forgiving and reasonable than this question makes out, and there are many good Christians that study the evidence and make up their own mind.
The real danger is Dogma written by paranoids and hate-mongers, who seek to divide, rather than unite.
/!\
2007-10-17 05:14:31 · answer #3 · answered by Ard-Drui 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Goddess Bless Nature!
2007-10-18 17:01:39 · answer #4 · answered by ptolemaios_kypriotes 1 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Why do anti-Semites bring quotes from NON-JEWISH sites to make claims about what Jews believe?
Jews do not believe that Chritianity is idoltary for non-Jews, we do believe that it is LIKE (but not actually) idoltary for Jews which has the practical application that a Jew who practices Christianity is considered an apostate.
2007-10-16 21:51:23 · answer #5 · answered by allonyoav 7 · 2⤊ 0⤋
Who told you that stuff? It's like a conspiracy theory version of where Christianity came from. I believe the New Testament was written by men who actually knew Jesus, not by some Pagan high priesthood.
2007-10-16 19:17:03 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 3⤋
Why did Superman do without a cape? Was the power in the cape or was the power in the man? This isn't important you say cause these are fables. Well, so is what you are talking about.
2007-10-16 19:16:22 · answer #7 · answered by jumpingrightin 6 · 0⤊ 1⤋
I don't know why some Christians say that, I only know what God says. And He said certain things about the Jews - "Who has believed our report?"
It's not what the Jews believe about their own scriptures that I look for. It's what they won't believe, that is what I look for.
Psalm 118
21 I will give you thanks, for you answered me;
you have become my salvation.
22 The stone the builders rejected
has become the capstone;
23 the LORD has done this,
and it is marvelous in our eyes.
24 This is the day the LORD has made;
let us rejoice and be glad in it.
2007-10-16 19:27:15 · answer #8 · answered by Christian Sinner 7 · 1⤊ 2⤋
The trinity doctrine is a ''false doctrine''! It cannot be proved in the bible. Yet, the majority of christians are mislead by this horrible teaching. Email me if you wanna talk
2007-10-16 19:19:45 · answer #9 · answered by david t 2 · 2⤊ 2⤋
When you receive Jesus in your heart and love Jesus and try to do the best you can by obeying the Holy Spirit you are a Christian
2007-10-16 19:16:40 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 3⤋
you obviously are crazy, and terribly lonely(no girlfriend) and you aren't asking a question either so i am not obligated to answer the title question because you have made up your mind on this whole thing and are not interested in any other views but your own. SO... I have a question for you can you unequivocally prove to me gods existence? now your faith means diddly squat here so give a shot.
2007-10-16 19:21:20 · answer #11 · answered by Zack 4 · 1⤊ 3⤋