Do you or do you not find this ironic?

Question

That the Vatican (Head of the Catholic Church) is in the same city and country that crucified Jesus Christ.

The Vatican is in Rome and it was the Romans who had him killed. Just because the "Church" has given itself it's own city does not remove it from where it is!

Did you not know that!

The Romans Killed Jesus Christ, and that is where the head of the Catholic Church is.

Answer 1

They must say that the Catholic Church is wrong or else why are they Protestants? Yet they must also admit that not one of their denominations has any right to declare itself to be the one True Church. And that, for the simple reason that Christ did not estab­lish any institution which could be known by men to be His Church.


They are all brought up with that impression and so they continue in religious matters to wander where they will, like people in a forest, who follow any line of tracks without bothering to ask where it leads. And they so love the risky adventure of experi­menting for themselves that they search Scripture for every possible text which they think will support them.


All Christians admit that Christ intended a unity of some kind to prevail amongst His followers. But we cannot deny for ourselves what type of unity must prevail. The "all going the one way" type of unity, whilst each goes his own way, is useless if it be quite foreign to the mind of Christ. Who can accept the in­vention of Protestants who, noting the numberless ways in which they are divided, define the unity re­quired to suit themselves in their present circumstances and in such a way that they may remain where they are.


Those who believed all that He had taught would at least be one in faith. Again, He demanded unity in worship. "One Lord, one faith, one baptism," was to be the rule and baptism belongs to worship. The early Christians were told distinctly by St. Paul that participation in the same Eucharistic worship probably was essential to the unity. "We, being many, are one bread, one body; all that partake of one bread".
In other words, "The one Christ is to be found in Holy Communion, and we, however numerous we may be, are one in Him if we partake of the same Holy Communion."

Protestantism cannot preserve Christian standards in­tact. Articles of faith have gone overboard. Mortifi­cation and fasting are not required. The evangelical counsels of poverty, chastity, and obedience, with their consequent inspiration of monastic life are ig­nored. Protestant writings excuse, and even approve, laxity in moral practice. Protestantism has not pro­duced anything equivalent to the canonized Catholic Saint. Many of the Sacraments of Christ are not even acknowledged by Protestantism, whilst the heart has been torn out of its worship by the loss of Christ's presence in the Blessed Eucharist. Of spiritual author­ity there is scarcely a trace. The very clergy are not trained in moral law, and cannot advise the laity as they should, even were the laity willing to accept ad­vice. The prevalent notion, "Believe on Christ and be saved," tends of its very nature to lessen the sense of necessity of personal virtue.

Protestantism was a movement of heated dissent. Error and rebellion took the first Protestants from the Catholic Church, the various forms of error, or the various countries in which the rebellion occurred, giving rise to the various sects. But any goodness which the first Protestants took as doctrinal baggage with them was derived from the Church they left. And any apparent goodness in the teachings of Protestant­ism is still to be found in the Catholic Church. Where, in the Catholic Church, cockle sown by the enemy is found here and there amidst the wheat, Satan was wise enough to allow some wheat here and there to remain amidst the cockle of Protestantism. And it is the presence of this wheat which accounts for the con­tinued existence of Protestantism. But the wheat does not really belong to Protestantism. It is a relic of Catholicism growing in alien soil. A Catholic is good when he lives up to Catholic principles, refusing to depart from them. A Protestant is good when he unconsciously acts on Catholic principles, departing from those which are purely Protestant.

Answer 2

Christ was not crucified in Rome, and the Vatican is not part of Italy. It is ironic though that the head of the Catholic church is in the heart of the old Roman empire that persecuted the early Christians and assisted in the execution of Jesus. But thats like installing democracy in the heart of the Middle East or communism in America. Irony, yes, but not necessarily bad. It is a feat, nothing more, nothing less.

Answer 3

um ... Vatican City is in Rome Italy ... Jesus was purportedly crucified outside the city of Jerusalem.

the reason the seat of the Catholic church is in Rome is because Catholicism is based in early Christianity when the Roman Emperor Constantine converted to Christianity and thereafter spread (by force) throughout Europe.

for some strange reason a lot of Christians fail to understand that without the Catholic Church aggressively spreading Christianity across the globe they would likely be hellbound heathens right now. Catholism is the mother of all Christian sects.

Answer 4

Jesus was crucified in Rome? Peter WAS crucified in Rome, on a upside-down cross. According to scripture, Jesus told Peter that he was giving Peter the authority to bind and release in the name of his Church. In that sense, Peter was somewhat like the first "Pope". The Vatican is built on top of Peter's grave. Perhaps that's why Rome was considered by many to be a centrally located "office" for the Church.

But yes, it does seem ironic at first glance.

There's an old saying: "Only Nixon could go to China." I hope that makes sense here.

Answer 5

Why is the Head of the Catholic church in the country that was in Roman rule - who ordered the Crucifixion of Jesus?

Jeepers I do not know, mayhaps they are paying penances for the actions of their fore bearers?

Sarcasm intended

Answer 6

only if you think it is ironic that a friend of mine, a big shot Gov psychiatrists says.
"Atheism is nothing more than the product of an unfulfilled childhood, as evidenced by the adolescence need to rebel against the Father and create a alternative reality, by any means possible". " A simple personality disorder". A scientist! now that is ironic.
The name withheld, for there sake.

Answer 7

So true. We have a long way to go, but as you so beautifully illustrate, we don't know where we're going. We had better determine our direction before it's too late and like the moth, we wind up in the flames.

Answer 8

Jesus was not crucified in Rome. It was on Golgotha's hill at Jerusalem.

Answer 9

Yeah I knew about that, but you have to remember that they had a little help. And I do think that it's a little ironic.

Answer 10

The Vatican City is it's own country - not part of Italy.