So all the Romans are annoyed with Jesus, and have decider to kill him?

Question

this is generally cause of all his preaching and following and the walking on water, turning water into wine and all that kinda stuff. So he'd be a well known figure in and around the Olive groves ya?

So why did the other poor bloke Judas have to identify him to the Romans?
Another question about Judasm how come his Gospel never got published?
I'd say jesus was well annoyed with him, What do you think?

Answer 1

Had the gospels been written for a Persian Audience, then it would have been the Romans and Jews who killed Jesus, but the books were written for a Roman audience in Greek, and blame the Jews for falling out with him, and using the Romans to get rid of their problem.

There was more than one Judas in the apostles, and St. Jude, - Mark names him as Thaddaeus; Matthew identify him as either Thaddeus or Lebbaeus (some later Latin manuscripts name him "Judas the Zealot"); Luke names him as Judas, son of James (translated in the KJV as: "Judas the brother of James" Luke 6:16.

Epistle of Jude (From Wikipedia) is titled as written by "Jude, a servant of Jesus Christ and a brother of James" (NIV). If taken literally this means that the author is a brother of Jesus, an attribution which is now increasingly considered as the most probable.

Though it is held as canonical by all Christian churches, some scholars consider the letter a pseudonymous work written between the end of the first century and the first quarter of the 2nd century, arguing from the references to the apostles (verse 1:17-18), tradition (1:3); the book's competent Greek style and the opposition to Gnosticism. However, this reasoning has not found universal acceptance and some scholars date it between 66 to 90 CE (AD).

I think you refer to the 'Gospel of Judas' which was a Gnostic gospel. The document is not claimed to have been written by apostle Judas Iscariot himself, but rather by Gnostic followers of Jesus Christ. It exists in an early fourth century Coptic text, though it has been proposed, but not proven, that the text is a translation of an earlier Greek version. The Gospel of Judas is probably from no earlier than the second century, since it contains theology that is not represented before the second half of the second century, and since its introduction and epilogue assume the reader is familiar with the canonical Gospels. The original document has been carbon dated to plus or minus 50 years of 280 AD.

The Gospel of Judas, on the other hand, portrays Judas in a very different perspective than do the Gospels of the New Testament, according to a preliminary translation made in early 2006 by the National Geographic Society: the Gospel of Judas appears to interpret Judas's act not as betrayal, but rather as an act of obedience to the instructions of Jesus. This assumption is taken on the basis that Jesus required a second agent to set in motion a course of events which he had preplanned in advance. In that sense Judas acted as a catalyst.

The Gospel of Judas does not claim that the other disciples knew gnostic teachings. On the contrary, it asserts that the disciples had not learned the true Gospel, which Jesus taught only to Judas Iscariot. The book had been banned by the time printing was re-invented in 1530, so was never put into print in the west.

Answer 2

Why would the Romans be annoyed with Jesus because he walked on water and turned water into wine? You think that was enough to make them want to crucify him?

The Gospels are silent about exactly why Judas identified Jesus to the Romans. Your guess is as good as mine.

The reasons the so-called Gospel of Judas (which Judas can't have written if he killed himself before Jesus died) wasn't included in the New Testament is that the early Church didn't think it was as good as either Matthew, Mark, Luke or John. It certainly isn't as good a read as they are. I can't speak for how 'Christian' it is, because I'm an atheist.

Answer 3

ROFLOL,
Well, lol, Judas identified Him to the Jews, not the romans, specifically the guards of the chief priest of the Jews.
Is the second question "why didn't the Jews publish the gospels? (they don't believe He is the Christ)
Jesus actually announced to the group at the last supper, that Judas was going to betray Him, then told Judas to go ahead and leave and do it to it.
It is doubtful Rome had even heard of Jesus, other than by rumor. Certainly, several years later, when Paul arrived, under arrest, after having preached his way there with his roman guards, Rome was unaware of the problem existing.

Answer 4

I bet the Romans actually encouraged the teachings of Christ. I mean he told the soldiers to be content with their wages and not complain about it. He wasn't like all the other rebels who tried to stir the people to rebellion and instead preached peace.
One thing, the Romans did NOT arrest Jesus Christ. The Jewish Temple guards did and then woke the 'annoyed' Romans up in the wee hours of the morning to do their little trial.
Why did Judas have to identify to to the guards was, not all of them knew him on sight since he didn't go talking to them personally, and it was dark.
I don't know anything about a gospel written by Judas.
Christ wasn't annoyed with anyone.

Answer 5

I think you have a literary deficit in understanding the Bible.
It was not the Romans who were annoyed with Jesus.
It was the Jewish authorities, the Sanhedrin & Pharisees.
They saw Jesus as a threat to their authority & position.

So they reported him to the Romans, accusing him of
making himself equal to God. The Romans didn't care about
such religious issues; so they accused him of rebellion.
Saying that Jesus' followers considered him to be a king.

Judas identified Jesus to the Temple Police by a kiss.
Judas probably thought he was helping to force Jesus hand.
By confronting the authorities, the kingdom of God would be
brought into being.

There were many such gospels attributed to his disciples.
But the Church examined & rejected those it could not accept.
The 4 which were accepted were written by disciples who knew Jesus personally.

Answer 6

the romans were against executing jesus who they saw as an insignificant cult leder who would fade away. The crucified him however, because the Jewish temple leaders who maintained people control amongst the jewish population, didnt like his preaching. Therefore it was easier to nail him up rather than risk loosing the support of the jewish leaders.

Judas' gospel was ommitted from the bible for political reasons, it outlined the relationship between jesus and magdeline which made him less supernatural than the chuch wanted him to be

Answer 7

I don't know what was in the mind of the Roman soldiers who came to arrest Jesus...

If it were happening today...

Jesus instructed his disciples to sell their coat and buy some weapons. Can you imagine a whole batallion of Roman cut throats coming to pick up Jesus and one of his disciples Saint Pete draws his sword and slashes the ear of one of the Roman soldiers who for some reason was not wearing his helmut at the moment. The poor soldier bends over looking for his ear in the pitch dark night while Jesus is in control at the scene of the crime reprimanding Saint Pete and ordering him to sheath his sword... Then Jesus spits the ear and puts it back were it was while the rest to the soldiers were just watching all the time what was going on... That's not the picture of the fierce Roman soldiers that we learn in public schools, for Christ's sake! This soldiers were not annoyed. They were ammused with Jesus!

Answer 8

Sounds like you need a little study. The Romans didn't give a Rat's Rip what Jesus did. They were only interested in maintaining the peace in the middle east. It was the Jewish Establishment that was pulling their hair out over Him.

Answer 9

It was not the Romans who wanted him dead, it was the Jews, his brotheren, the people who had worshiped him only a week before. And about Judas, Jesus greeted him as a friend when Judas came up and kissed him to signal the men who were about to arrest Jesus who he was.

Answer 10

Jesus traveled well and did not stay in one area. That is why the Roman soldier, who only stayed in one area were not to able to recognize him. Also it was dark.

Judas does not have a gospel as far as we know.

And it wouldn't suprise me if Jesus was annoyed by Judas.