does the theory of evolution and the big bang really negate the existance of god?

Question

seriously, why do theists take it so personally when they find that facts differ from a book that is totally saturated with parables and stories whose primary purpose is to teach a moral code?

why modify some parts (stoning for blasphemy for instance) that are CLEARLY unable to be enforced today and unjust, but completely disregard a theory that is supported by evidence when it doesn't detract from your beliefs at all?

If I believed in god- then isn't it a logical step to see evolution and the big bang as simply the method which god created the earth or animals?

is it really that it offends or you see it as "negating" your religious beliefs or simply that you don't understand it and are against it because your parents were or the propoganda of your church tells you to?

what is it that keeps you from looking at evolution as the transmission as god's method or the big bang as the working components of the factory that produces silly putty?

SCE2AUX: no if evolution were shown to be "not true" then athiesm would most certainly not be disproven. its not a "one or the other" standard here. It would simply mean that we had absolutely no proof of any methodology. you forget also that athiesm pre-dates evolution and even the mechanism which explained how evolution was possible (natural selection). if you somehow "discredit" evolution, that simply puts creationism on the level with other wacky theories like aliens created us from mud, or atlas holds up the earth, or that the earth was created from yimir's body and blood by odin.

or maybe we transmuted from the world with two moons and there was an accident caused by our servants sending us millions of years into the past instead of when we expected to get here.

Answer 1

As an atheist I see no valid arguement that evolution and the big bang negate the existence of the gods. If gods existed they undoubtedly could create in anyway they saw fit.

However those theories do negate the literal meaning of many scriptures.

Answer 2

Okay, I'll go easy on you since you're only thirteen. First of all, there's a big bang theory, and there's an evolution theory. The two are completely unrelated, except that the first is necessary for the second to occur. Can't hardly have things evolving if the universe never banged, right? Second, it's >possible< that some 'god', for lack of a better term, started everything off, and then just stepped aside to let things take their course. Possible, but not necessary. Just sayin'. Third, there is no proof that any god exists, nor is there any disproof, and there never will be any. The bible doesn't prove anything, except that a long time ago some guys wrote down some stuff and it got collected into one book that some people take as scripture. Lastly, science CAN be trusted. If you know the scientific method, it is self evident that it is infallible when properly used, and when improperly used, the error is soon discovered by rival scientists. However, no part of ANY scientific theory says "....and therefore, no god exists." Science deals only with the natural world, and the supernatural is left to religionists to argue about. One thing more - thanks SO much for caring about correct spelling and grammar. That's a very rare quality these days (just take a look at some of the posts in this site), and many of us do appreciate it.

Answer 3

The evidence gathered that supports both the Big Bang and biological evolution is incompatible with a literal, fundamentalist reading of the Bible, but not with the idea of the existance of God.

Of course, a literal, fundamentalist reading of the Bible is also incompatible with the theory that the Earth goes around the Sun, that the Earth doesn't have corners, and that insects have six legs. So take the objections of fundamentalists for what they're worth.

Answer 4

I have often asked the same of my fellow Christians. In fact, I think the Big Bang Theory rather neatly fits into Genesis. But there are those who think that if you don't take every part literally that somehow it negates the whole thing.

But the Bible isn't just teaching a moral code. It is the story of God and how Jesus quite literally died and rose again.

Answer 5

I have been trying to think of the right words to ask the same thing for ages. Very well said!

Thom1274, The whole, my religion is right and yours is wrong thing is getting old.

We don't really care who changed the scripture etc, if the bible is 'a book that is totally saturated with parables and stories whose primary purpose is to teach a moral code'
like the man say's, then who cares if the text has been changed? And who cares whether you are Catholic or Protestant.

Answer 6

Evolution would not negate the existence of God, a God creating the world through evolutionary processes is certainly believable, but if evolution were disproven, atheism would be refuted. If life didn't occur through evolution or God, what is the possible alternative?

Answer 7

As a Catholic Christian I agree with you. My church believes basically everything you said as far as I can tell. The idea of Christans rejecting evolution is based completely on the false versions (not 100% true) of Chrisitanity that came out of the reformation. Not that they are completely bad, but based on some errors in theology.

Not sure what you're refering to with the stoning part though.

Answer 8

actually it could be that the very ideas of God are the problem

suppose the 'Big Bang' happened when god who was not yet a person contemplated him/her/itself and inside found all of us and even more (aliens) in there and in seeing them gave Image to all 'Persons' and freed them to go forth and make reality thus the big bang

suppose all the god writings in prehistory (remember the winners write the history) were simply sharings and tyrants added all that stoning stuff

"The 12th Planet," by Zecharia Stitchin puts a lot of stuff in more logical paradigm

Bible is now more the annotations than the original stories and religion is merely entrenched superstition used for control

Answer 9

Dont confuse believing in a god with believing in the bible. No matter what anyone claims, there is absolutely NO proof that the bible is anything more than a list of rules written by man for man. You can believe in god, and in being a good person, without believing that a 600 year old man built an arc, or that people who work on Sunday should be killed.

Answer 10

Well, the big bang theory does not support divine creation. Just live a healthy life and do as little harm as possible to our global population, and our beautiful earth.