Why would Darwin and subsequent scientists lie about evolution?

Question

Many people refuse to accept evolution as a proven fact but why would scientists lie?
What would they possibly hope to gain by these lies?
It doesn't give them any power over others or tell people how to live their lives.
So why would they lie?

Answer 1

I would argue that in fact scientists have every motivation to prove it wrong. Science gives its greatest rewards and honors to those who disprove what was previously accepted.

In a sense you might say that the greatest threat to current scientific discoveries is not religion but future scientific discoveries.

If there is ever a serious challenge to evolution the first place you will hear about it is from scientists.

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"Why would the apostles lie about seeing the resurected Christ?"

Since you ask the question Crusader lets look at it. Lets follow where human nature and personal gain leads shall we?

For the apostles what would be the downside if all of it were a lie? Not only are there benefits to the lie but there is almost no downside. And of course no one can disprove an event only witnessed by those who would benefit.

Also there is enormous pressure to lie. Your power and position is tied to your claims that the man is the son of the deity of your religion. But now he's dead! Without the lie you risk being exposed.

Instead of asking why would they lie I would say they had little choice. Even if Jesus was the son of god - if the resurrection did not happen or it happened with no witnesses they would still need to make up the story to maintain belief in what they had been claiming.

Answer 2

I believe the Bible is the divinely inspired word of God, God is a scientist. He created the Earth, and life on the earth.
The only thing that science has proven is that God is awesome! I love science, the more they discover and try to dispell the evidence of God, the more they prove Gods existence. Example: Science says that the universe began with a cataclismac bang and it was: the Bible say's in Genisis; God created the heavens and the earth. What's the difference? So God mixed some stuff up, and BOOM! the heavens and the earth. Next; Science says that all life started with water, again in Genisis the first animated living things God created, (after plant life) were ------ FISH, and ALL sea creatures! Scientist say that Dinosaurs have a similar skeletal structure as birds. WoW, that's great!! Do you want to guess what God had made after the fish and sea life??

Birds! And if we evolved from monkeys, why are there still monkeys and what about that thing that science calls DNA?
It's different for every living thing. I love God!

So, are scientists not telling the truth, or just afraid to admit to it?

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Answer 3

First, it isn't a Proven Fact. It is a Scientific Theory.

That favored races bit turned me off. It sounds racist.

Don't try and tell me he meant "species". He didn't, otherwise he would have said so as he did when he titled it and included the word species elsewhere.

It is the APPEARANCE of impropriety, rather than actual impropriety that will determine whether there is a view of any relevance.

I'm writing what I'm writing to state my opinion. I think the appearance of a racist title is worse than an unambiguous racist title. I would be more inclined to read it if Darwin didn't look like a member (or founder) of the KKK.

Answer 4

I can't imagine why. But of course, you might still say they don't lie, but are misguided or otherwise incorrect. Once the well-established scientific theory is challenged, who knows what odd justifications might be concocted? Like believing a guy some 3,000 years ago knew more than what a modern scientist knows. Just doesn't seem plausible to me.

Answer 5

They wouldn't. They simply use the scientific method, and report their observations. None of the proponents of evolution sought to discredit religion, or creationism. The church saw it that way though, for whatever reason. They persecuted those who said the world was round, and those who said the sun was the center of our solar system. Maybe when irrefutable proof comes out that evolution is just simply fact, and when the religious realize it was never meant in any way shape or form to diminish their beliefs they'll stop spreading misinformation to confuse their followers.

Third time is supposed to be a charm.

Answer 6

Throughout the ages, intelligence was one way to make a statement to a select group or within your circle of aquaintances of your being "unique" or "better than".....

Intelligence brought the average man/woman "power"....of all sorts of degrees....and social standings and monetary gains (among other things)

Every man, woman, and child has "idea's".....one way or another every individual has "invented" something that they were "first" to do or have.....

Most people keep their thoughts and idea's and inventions to themselves....others are either more vocal about them or have had the opportunity to make them known to a wider audience.

Society through the ages has LOVED the "oddball".... ANYONE whom could cause their life to be changed from ordinary was welcome.....and....it still happens today.

So...you have an individual reason to want people to accept your intelligence as being "profitable" as well as a social reason for OTHERS to embrace your idea's for their own personal agenda's.

Darwin didn't have the opportunities of research that we have today.....nor did the people whom once thought the world was "flat".....

Darwin had his own personal agenda for wanting to stress "evolution".....

If anyone wants to make an argument for or against something, if you work hard enough to do so, you CAN...

....that means, that if you want to do so badly enough, you will overlook some of the irritating obstacles that pop up and count them insignificant in the grand scheme of things and barge forward with your own belief...

I, personally, wanted to believe in a "Father God".... someone else WANTED to NOT believe....

We each were researching everything we could to solidify our belief according to what we WANTED to find...through those preconceived directives, we found what we WANTED...

LOL.... I personally have tried to be non-biased about all the research I have done in my life, but, even I see where I drew the line sometimes...so, if I can do that, so does everyone else! :)

Human trait shared by all, don't you think? :)

{However, I maintain that until a person has sought for EARNESTLY and SINCERELY everything that God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit (and Bible) has for them, then, they haven't actually done a thorough "research" to base their belief that God does not exist.}

Besides, people have been caught in "lies" throughout history...which gives us all a reason to NOT believe everything we see or hear....whether they be scientists or not.

Answer 7

Vested interest - vested in their own self-interest in doing what they want to do, without having to be accountable to a higher power, which we Christians call Creator God and our Heavenly Father! That and the cruel, harsh reality that if they don't "toe the party line" of evolution - despite all its many flaws, lack of any legitimate proofs and lack of any "missing links" - of the late Bertrand Russell, the late Carl Sagan, Richard Hawkins and Stephen Hawkings, the funding for their own pet projects will be cut off! Oh wait, that would *be* being concerned with their own vested interests!

Darwin, himself, was ready to disclaim his own theory of evolution, since fossils of all the transitional forms of life he postulated *had* to be there, simply could not be found! The late Bertrand Russell stated publicly that he chose to subscribe to and believe in evolution rather than creation, because if he had to be accountable to a superior being, he could not live the licentious and profligate life he had chosen to live.

Answer 8

the real reason is that the leaders of these churches believe that a belief in evolution might lead one to question whether or not there is a god, and is the human race special etc. if this occurred these people might start to lose power over their flock, this can't be permitted and so the followers are told evolution is false etc, it has nothing to with "Why would Darwin etc lie?"

Answer 9

They haven't. The're motive is looking, testing and repeating their findings. It all stands up. So the only other logical reason is to blame some other non testable (very clever!) reason.

And so you throw your hands up in despair. All of our lives, be you fundie or hardcore atheists, revolve around this simple scientific method. Your medicine you ingest, your body you're living in, your car you drive, the planet and the motion of the galaxy you live in: they all work under similarily observable actions or reactions.

And one dusty old book proves otherwise, apparently.

If I was an alien, I'd be embarassed.

Answer 10

Because they cannot accept the alternative, so they keep beating this dead horse.
The only thing Darwin ever proved is that finches produce finches and pigeons produce pigeons, in essence he was actually proving Genesis 1:25!
Darwin said that if his theory was right, that someday people would find millions of transitionals. And today, 150 years later, not a single transitional has been found. In fact, the fossil record bears witness of the sudden burial of millions of animals in a catastrophic worldwide flood. Almost all fossils, except those found in amber, precious metals and coal, are found in sedimentary rock. This is rock that used to be mud and sand. Animals are found frozen in everyday activities, which means they were buried quite suddenly by water and sediment.
You know, Hitler once said, "If you tell a lie loud enough, and often enough, and long enough, the people will believe it." That's exactly what has happened with the theory of evolution. People who hate God find a haven in evolution, so they propagate it, even when the evidence is staring them in the face.