Christians: Where in Revelation can we find a single plausible revelation?

Question

No riddles here; I mean actual hindsight remarks, predictions about the current state of things, technology, space travel, etc.

OK Caroline: I choose to mock your baseless religion; you may choose to either listen to or ignore me....

Answer 1

Well, I saw 7 seals at the zoo. But that probably doesn't count.

Answer 2

Revelation is full of revelations.
Revelation 1:1--- A revelation by Jesus Christ, which God gave him, to show his slaves the things that must shortly take place. And he sent forth his angel and presented [it] in signs through him to his slave John,
Revelation chapter 5 about the seven seals and the four living creature and many more.
Chapter 6 has the four horses in it.
Chapter 9 about the locusts and other things as well.
Let's skip foreward now b/c this will get too long if I continue with the chapters.
Chapter 21:4----4 And he will wipe out every tear from their eyes, and death will be no more, neither will mourning nor outcry nor pain be anymore. The former things have passed away.”
That will happen in the future.
I'm one of Jehovah's Witnesses and we have a book about Revelation that helps us understand it better. You could ask them if you want to receive one.
Hope that helps! :-)

Answer 3

You might consider the idea (that was quite new at the time), that when a person 'passes over' to afterlife, it is possible for him to die a 'second death'. That concept, is not a concern for science, technology, etc. It is however, the central theme of the book.

The book itself, may very well be a syllabus, or a template for the larger Bible. This idea is not as exciting, as predicting wars, famines, space travel etc. But, it has some merit.

Answer 4

From an ex-atheist:

Like many others, I saw the gospel as a bunch of scribbles; I thought it was just a bunch of nonsense until my focus changed [like when someone looks at a stereogram – one of those fun pictures that takes a while to focus on to see the image].

The Bible is a spiritual stereogram and its effect, the perception of the reality of God, is produced through a careful design of ambiguity and paradox, which allow you to discover truth from different perspectives. You need two aspects of the intellect to see the reality of God in its pages; you need to utilize both the logical and spiritual (or poetic) component of your thinking to see Him. If you use only one in the absence of the other, you will lose the effect. It's like covering one eye. The truth of the Bible, like the poster, is also a function of depth. I think that the reason why a lot of people aren't seeing its truth today is because we have become a nation of shallow thinkers.

The spiritual, or intellectual effect that is produced in the Bible is no less powerful than the visual effect found in the stereogram. When you 'see' it, you'll know it.

When you find yourself being criticized for your belief in God, keep in mind the following: You know that something exists from a primary perception and you are being told by one who has not yet had the perception that it cannot be real. It's like being at Kitty Hawk and witnessing the Wright brothers' first flight only to come home and have some egghead patronizingly explain to you, in great scientific detail, that heavier than air flight is 'utterly' impossible. This really did happen. Up to a year after their initial flights, Scientific American, the U.S. Army and most American scientists still thought that the Wrights were guilty of playing a hoax on the American public. What would you do if you found yourself in this dilemma? You were there! You saw the plane take off and land! So did many others. You can either dismiss the argument of the egghead as coming from his own ignorance and lack of perception, or you can begin to doubt your own perception and question your sanity along with your ability to reason. Did you REALLY see that plane take off? Maybe you just imagined it all. Our senses can play tricks on us, but they can also inform us of reality.

Answer 5

The whole book of Revelation is a prediction of current events.

For example, when John wrote about the two witnesses at the wall that were seen world wide, this can happen now with the internet and satellite capabilitlies.

Answer 6

Mr Cromwell, do you really want a "valid answer" from a Christian.

Why would the Revelation have the need to mention the current state of technology. It was meant to be understood from a Christian viewpoint to see the things as spiritually and historically taking place. It is given in symbolic language for those who would want to understand the events taking place in God's time frame.

I would hope you respect a Christians stand for making their choice to worship their God. I certainly accept your stand to choose your beliefs. We are all our own person to make our own choices. I bid you well.

Answer 7

The problem is, Revelations is NOT supposed to be understood until those things actually happen. And I haven't read Revelations for awhile simply for that reason.

However, from what I remember, John did mention a lot of things that would not have been understood then. Let me reread Revelations, and if you'd like, I can get you specific verses.

Answer 8

Revelation is rather trippy to read.

Its also the book that scared me the most as a child.

I accept that it is concerning things yet to become and I leave it there.

In the same way I only go as far as my understanding when pursuing science. When it starts getting beyond my reasoning I take a step away and evaluate. Maybe to come back later when my understanding has broadened

Answer 9

You have to understand, the book of revelation was written in an Apocolyptic style of writing which was understood back in those days. Just as some things we write today they would not fully understand. The message is simply that Jesus will come again for us at the end of time. There are no real plausible points being made that we today could comprehend.

Answer 10

When something is vague and can basically mean anything you want it to, it's easy to demonize someone and say, "The bible says so."

Many people today seriously believe that the Revelation doesn't belong in the bible. How can that be? Do some research on how the bible was cannonized at a council of the church around 350 C.E.

This might be an eye-opening experience that most church goers are clueless about.

Answer 11

While some claim that those things are history, I am not so persuaded.

If you want to study the parts that are history, seek a study of the Seven Churches. Those churches are not referred to as being metaphors, but were actual churches involved with some form of Christianity.

Those are researchable.

But if you find it difficult to believe that Jerusalem is going to be attacked by it's enemies who consist of many enemies, there is nothing I can bring to light to you.