for example the case bellow it seems to be a borderline or bipolar illness but christians knows that is a possession . how can doctors deal with something that they dont know?
she abandoned all her things .
marriage , car , house where she used to be opressed.then she wents to another country was involved with another guy in a serious relationship.then one day she told him that she wants to come back to her father s house and no more contact with my friend;;; she left his house saying that she loves him.after she erased all her sites: personal with photos, myspace and so. just one day they disussed but she was very strange !now by myspace she agressed him saying that he will be destroyed and he is a false prophet...
2007-10-16
02:12:14
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i know many persons that are suffering for years changing from doctor to doctor others commited suicide!!!! others with falses diagnostics!!! how long that will continue this lie!
2007-10-16
02:22:48 ·
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lotus ; no way! the doctors are only dealing with they are seeing . they see something then they will say : this person is borderline, dsm , depressed etc. they only can see the consequences not the origin... we, true christians we can see if somebody is possessed by the knowledge of the Holy Spirit ! mental illness stay forever with a person no med can erase that .
2007-10-16
02:32:06 ·
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what if the symptoms of a mental illness is made by satan? forexample brain inbahlance?
2007-10-16
02:33:52 ·
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I SAW A FIVE YEARS OLD BOY POSSESSED HE WAS DOING WONDERFULS DRAWS BUT IT WAS JUST A RESULT OF THE POSSESSION . WHEN A TRUE CHRISTIAN STARTED TO COMBAT WITH THE DEMONS ACTING ON HIM HE STOPED TO DRAW LIKE THAT.
2007-10-16
02:38:07 ·
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i agree wit you Grace a person healed must fulfill the empty house! otherwise i think she needs help to do that and she must want to do that . yes is worst when demons come back!
2007-10-16
02:54:22 ·
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by ~Heathen Daughter~V and lotus
YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING YOU HAVE NO EXPERIENCE AT ALL. A TRUE CHRISTIAN WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT CAN SEE IFA PERSON IS POSSESSED OR NOT AND ALLWAYS THOSE PERSONS HAVE SYMPTOMS OF A POSSESSION !I DONT CARE IFA PERSON IS PHD OR MASTER DEGREE A LOT OF THEM ARE DOING EACH DAY A LOT OF MISTAKES AND NEVER THEY WILL FIX THE WORLD ! ONLY GOD CAN DO THAT AND IT S ARRIVING.I SUGGEST YOU TO READ THE BIBLE THE PART OF DEMONIC POSSESSION AND YOU WILL SEE.
REPENT YOURSELF AND ACCEPT JESUS TIME IS RUNNING OUT!
ROMANS 10:9
2007-10-17
00:10:30 ·
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I M NOT TALKING ABOUT CHURCHES I M TALKING ABOUT JESUS AND HIS WORD ,THE BIBLE.
HE CAN HEAL HE CAN FINISH WITHA DEMONIC POSSESSION !HE CAN HEAL SOMEONE WITH CANCER, AIDS ,MENTAL ILLNESS...
HE IS THE SAME YESTERDAY.TODAY.TOMORROW!
PRAY,FAST,SPIRITUAL WARFARE!
IN HIS KINGDOM THAT WILL START SOON WITH THE TRUE CONVERTED CHRISTIANS NO MORE ILLNESSES!
2007-10-17
00:40:55 ·
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THE CHILD CASE IS TRUE .HE CAMES FROM A FREE MASSONIC
FAMILY AND BY BOTH SIDE WITH A LOT OF CURSE
2007-10-17
00:47:51 ·
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Mentally ill, demon possessed, patients may be treated by a doctor through medication to treat symptoms of the possession allowing the patient to work on the demoniac possession itself. The treatment of symptoms is not complete. The patient herself must work on the root cause of the illness/possession.
As Jesus, who is God and therefore cannot lie, says, an unclean spirit being driven out looks for a place to rest. He then returns to the house that has been swept clean taking seven more unclean spirits with him. This means that the "house" or person must always battle the demons.
The only spirit capable of driving out the demons is the Holy Spirit Himself. He is God. His possession of the person formerly possessed by demons will completely clean the house of the unclean spirits. A person formerly possessed must always call on the Holy Spirit. He will dwell in the person keeping her clean.
A formerly possessed woman may do this but it is a battle. Since human nature is weak no one is perfectly without sin. The Holy Spirit cannot dwell in a sinful person. The woman fighting sin must also fight demons as she falls into sin. The medication assists in the symptoms of demoniac possession until the sin and demons are exorcised again allowing the Holy Spirit to return.
Hope this helps.
Yours in Christ Jesus
2007-10-16 02:38:08
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answered by Grace 4
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Wait, wait...what Christians know it is demonic possession? First of all, for a diagnosis, a doctor would need her age, her past history, is she on any meds, did she take any street drugs (possibly even unwittingly), and then the doctor could try to sort through the behavior and how her experiences have impacted her thinking. Obviously, there is no "Demonic Possession" (NOS??) in the DSM-IV but there is a V-code of "Spiritual Emergency"/"Spiritual Crisis" which generally is self-limiting. Another thing is that the person's culture would need to be taken into account as certain cultures accept things that maybe the majority of people in the world do not accept. However if YOUR culture believes it, you would not be considered delusional. Personal history is important because it sounds like this woman may have PTSD - all the running away, etc. - but certainly that would not preclude other issues.
addendum: Hmmm...you addressed my answer...I'm wondering where you saw in my response anything about medication or pills making something go away. I said that a doctor would take into consideration any medication the person was taking (and included in this any other substance which could make her act irrationally.) Honestly, I never heard before of this true Christian ability to tell the difference between possession and mental illness. (We'll need to get some for our intake department.) I'm thinking that you're doing what you accuse the doctors of doing - just noting what they see and making assumptions. And there is that stereotype of psych nurses being big "pill pushers." But that would be wrong in my case...I'm usually pretty much anti psych meds. Take a deep breath.
Peace.
2007-10-16 02:26:44
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answered by lotus4yoga 4
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I watched my sister suffer with this, and is now in heaven. No she did not have a demon in her, but some uneducated christians hurt her so deeply.
I feel unless you have experienced this personally by having a family member or having it yourself you really don't understand this. Many Christians have caused so much pain by telling someone they have a demon when they don't know what the heck they are doing. Mental illness is a real brain function illness. Yes, some may be oppressed or even possessed but not every one, it takes a very trained spiritual professional to diagnose this. Not some off the wall wanta-be healer.
2007-10-16 02:30:13
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answered by *~Sandra V~* 4
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STOP THE MADNESS!!!!
There is no demon possession. In EVERY case I have ever read (And I promise that is far more then the average person) there has yet to be a single case that was not GLARINGLY Obvious it was a mental illness that could be treated. Period. End of discussion. The fact that anyone of ANY religion would deny these people treatment is freaking beyond me. God gave them doctors. Use them. It's not hard.
Prayer does not heal mental illness. Period. It can HELP someone through mental illness. It can give them SUPPORT through mental illness. It can't cure it or heal it. It's not curable. Only treatable. Ugh, good goddess people.
edit: "I saw". Oh...where is your degree? How the **** would you know what is wrong with someone mentally? Is there a PhD or an MD after your name? IThere is viable proof of chemical IN THE BRAIN that cause many mentail illness. Oh is Satan planting things again? Is cancer the work of the devil too? You people are freaking delusional and you give your faith a bad name.
2007-10-16 02:18:40
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answered by ~Heathen Princess~ 7
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We don't have the authority to make that connection. The Bible isn't clear on what constitutes as demonic possession. The are no lists of symptoms to use as a guideline for diagnosis. I've met Christians who claim there is an underlying spiritual reason for every affliction known to man. Don't buy that garbage. There's no scriptural basis for it. With a lot of mental illnesses, scientific research has proved that there are chemical imbalances in the brain, and medication is able to help with that. I highly doubt that a pill would be affective against demon possession.
2007-10-16 02:28:51
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answered by mt75689 7
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there is not any stable learn info of a correlation between bipolar illness and "getting faith" interior the middle years. A bipolar illness is an affective illness (e.g., important temper swings) and is not any longer many times linked with a concept illness or delusions till one occurs to be experiencing a manic state or intense melancholy (even then no longer unavoidably). those with schizophrenia, schizo-affective illness, and a few of you greater intense character matters (e.g., schizoid, borderline, schizotypal) might have a concept illness, delusions, and auditory hallucinations. now and lower back (yet no longer each and all the time), their idiosyncratic ideals have stable non secular institutions. the 1st "psychotic harm" normally occurs interior the late little ones to early Nineteen Twenties. apparently, there's a physique of learn which shows a stable affiliation between psychological wellbeing and a feeling of spirituality or faith. the real DSM IV "acid-attempt" is with regard to the outcomes. Does it inhibit or compromise social/vocational/interpersonal functioning in some significant way? If no longer, it does not be viewed pathological. In different words, there is not any longer something inherently pathological with regard to the mind-blowing concept which you met an angel. the confer with no count in case you and hundreds of thousands of theistic "others" are deluding yourselves or no longer, will probable by no potential be thoroughly settled. it could be plenty greater useful to concentration on your point of functioning and not be too caught up in labels like "bipolar" it quite is often over clinically determined and shall we no longer circulate overboard with the belief of "magical thinking". A concept in a vist from an angel isn't sufficient to qualify. (it rather is comming from an atheistic-leaning agnostic). Plus, all of us have some diploma of magical thinking. stable luck!
2016-10-09 08:20:20
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answered by ragoonanan 3
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There isn't one. Demonic possession is bunk. Mental illness is the source. A bipolar person is not "possessed" by a demon. It's a chemical imbalance in the brain. Your thoughts are not accurate and are delusional. You need to see a psychiatrist.
2007-10-16 02:23:59
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answered by Soul Shaper 5
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Churches used possesion as a way to explain away mental and physical illnesses. People involved in exorcisms are victims. Doctors do not have to deal with something that that isn't true, it is the church that has been needing to update and accept medical dianoses and treatment.
There's no excuse anymore for people to be pointing fingers at th eill and caling them satan!! It's primitive. There are negative entities, but God and Jesus are protective, and they cannot touch anyone without them giving permission or worshipping them-but we have to know the difference between illness and psychological disorders and religion.
EDITED TO ADD: YOU THINK!!! THE 5 YEAR OLD STOPPED HIS WONDERFUL DRAWING AFTER BEING SCARED SILLY BY A RELIGIOUS NUTTY GROUP ABOUT DEMONS? WELL DUH!! YOU DON'T TELL A CHILD THAT. THERE ARE MANY NATURALLY GIFTED GENIOUS IN THIS WORLD, WHAT ARE U BACKWARDS? YOU GIVE RELIGIOUS PPL A VERY BAD NAME. THEY ARE NOT THIS BACKWARDS.
2007-10-16 02:19:38
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I have lived with this issue and the longer I experience it the more I think it is demonic, I do believe in meds, but I also think that SOME of mental illnesses are satan doing his dirty work, I can't say on all, and I do believe in meds, but I have managed after many years and less stress to wean off my meds and get closer to God and it surely appears it is demonic, but I am not saying anyone should abandon their meds. You need God to be very very very close and follow His divine guidance and even then it will be what He wills for you as you know satan loves to be bad in our heads !!!! and he is very very cunnning and evil REad the book "This Present Darkness" and that will shed some light on it all for sure
2007-10-16 02:21:42
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answered by I Love Jesus 5
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Not much difference. Mental illness is the cause of "Demonic possession".
The Christians however hate anything concerning "mental illness", possebly because they know they are there already.
2007-10-16 02:21:38
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answered by Anonymous
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