When you read this passage from the Bible, who was it that was speaking here?

Question

“Jehovah God himself produced me as the beginning of his way, the earliest of his achievements of long ago. From time indefinite I was installed, from the start, from times earlier than the earth. When there were no watery deeps I was brought forth as with labor pains, when there were no springs heavily charged with water. Before the mountains themselves had been settled down, ahead of the hills, I was brought forth as with labor pains, when as yet he had not made the earth and the open spaces and the first part of the dust masses of the productive land. When he prepared the heavens I was there; when he decreed a circle upon the face of the watery deep, when he made firm the cloud masses above, when he caused the fountains of the watery deep to be strong, when he set for the sea his decree that the waters themselves should not pass beyond his order, when he decreed the foundations of the earth, then I came to be beside him as a master worker, and I came to be the one he was specially

fond of day by day, I being glad before him all the time, being glad at the productive land of his earth, and the things I was fond of were with the sons of men.

Who was talking there?

Thanks.

Was it someone looking into a mirror or was it "Someone" else?

Proverbs 8: 22 - 31, NWT.

Answer 1

Jesus Christ, before he came to the earth. While he worked with Jehovah in creating everything else.

Answer 2

Christ Jesus.

Geneva Study Bible:
Jesus Christ our Saviour, whom John calls the Word that was in the beginning Joh 1:1.

Scofield Reference Notes:
Prov 8:22-36 Jn 1:1-3 Col 1:17 can refer to nothing less than the Eternal Son of God.

Before creation there were no intelligent minds to even observe and judge the works of God—so in that sense wisdom did not exist because there was no one to appreciate the wisdom God possessed. As the Firstborn of all creatures, Jesus became the very personification of God's inherent wisdom. Paul wrote at Colossians 2:3, saying that all the treasures of God's wisdom and knowledge had been carefully concealed by God in Christ.

As for feminine and neuter pronouns, wisdom is a quality not an actual person, therefore, even though wisdom is personified as a person, it is still a thing and as such it is proper to refer to a thing as "it."

Answer 3

PROVERBS 8:22: - 22 “Jehovah himself produced me as the beginning of his way, the earliest of his achievements of long ago . The Hebrew word for produced/possessed (qanah – Strongs’ dictionary defines it as “erect, that is, create”.
Is the wisdom talked about in Prov 8 the LITERAL wisdom of God. No, because God has always wisdom. God’s wisdom has no beginning. If this is not the literal wisdom then it is the FIGURATIVE Wisdom. 1 Cor 1:24 states that “, Christ the power of God and the WISDOM of God.” So the Bible tells us that Jesus is the Wisdom of God, therefore we can relate that to Prov 8.
Prov 8:22 & 24 used the words produced/created (qanah) & brought forth/formed (chul See Deut 32:18) . These words describe that the figurative Wisdom of God (Christ) was CREATED/FORMED.
Well, one might say, the word “Wisdom” used in Prov 8 is in feminine form, therefore it can’t be Jesus. As I’ve said, the word “wisdom” in Prov 8 is figurative not the literal “wisdom” of God. 1 Pet 2:8 called Jesus the rock-mass (Greek petra which is also in feminine form), that doesn’t mean that Jesus is a woman.

Answer 4

The NASB cross references Rev 3:14, Jesus being the beginning of the creation by God, with Prov. 8:22.

The NAB cross references John 1:1 and the Word was with God in the beginning with Prov. 8:22

This agrees with Col 1:15 which calls Jesus the Firstborn of all creation.

This explains why creation came 'through' Jesus and not from Jesus.

Jehovah is the creator, Jesus is the master worker.

Jehovah is the only true God, Jesus is the created god.
(John 1:18)

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Answer 5

Wisdom. I'm assuming you're referring to Proverbs, chapter 8:22-31. And here's a question for JW's: If you proclaim that the wisdom mentioned here represents Jesus, and that Jesus was created by God, then what are you saying? That there was a time when God was without wisdom? Jesus has always been and always will be God. He is not a created being. He is the creator of the universe!

Answer 6

You are not using a formal equivalence translation of the Bible. I would have accepted a KJV version even if I don't use it. I compared your NWT translation to the KJV and there is a big difference. NWT gives different meanings to the text.

Here is the commentary of Biblegateway on the passage.

Wisdom, here is Christ, in whom are all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge; it is Christ in the word, and Christ in the heart; not only Christ revealed to us, but Christ revealed in us. All prudence and skill are from the Lord. Through the redemption of Christ's precious blood, the riches of his grace abound in all wisdom and prudence. Man found out many inventions for ruin; God found one for our recovery. He hates pride and arrogance, evil ways and froward conversation; these

render men unwilling to hear his humbling, awakening, holy instructions. True religion gives men the best counsel in all difficult cases, and helps to make their way plain. His wisdom makes all truly happy who receive it in the love of Christ Jesus. Seek him early, seek him earnestly, seek him before any thing else. Christ never said, Seek in vain. Those who love Christ, are such as have seen his loveliness, and have had his love shed abroad in their hearts; therefore they are happy. They shall

be happy in this world, or in that which is beyond compare better. Wealth gotten by vanity will soon be diminished, but that which is well got, will wear well; and that which is well spent upon works of piety and charity, will be lasting. If they have not riches and honour in this world, they shall have that which is infinitely better. They shall be happy in the grace of God. Christ, by his Spirit, guides believers into all truth, and so leads them in the way of righteousness; and they walk

after the Spirit. Also, they shall be happy in the glory of God hereafter. In Wisdom's promises, believers have goods laid up, not for days and years, but for eternity; her fruit therefore is better than gold. (Pr 8:22-31)

Answer 7

It's from Proverbs 8 and it's Wisdom speaking.

Answer 8

Jesus Christ
he is the Wisdom of God.
John 1:1

Answer 9

It couldn't have been someone talking into a mirror, because they refer to another person. My guess is the Holy Spirit. It seems to hint at the foundation of the concept of the Trinity before Jesus came along.

Answer 10

Wisdom is not a 4th created person, but an attribute of God. It is used in this passage as poets sometimes talk one way to describe something else.

The whole chapter though must be utilized to grasp the scope of this powerful message. Wisdom is something that you must want and be attuned to in order to learn it.