This is Going to put Christian Faith at an END!?

Question

We all know that Adam and Eve were sinless before eating the fruit.

We all know that God intended for them to reproduce children.

We also know that being naked for them was nothing to be ashamed of and they felf nothing wrong about looking at each others naked bodies.

If Adam looks at Eve's naked body feeling nothing, then how could he get an erection?

Without an erection how would he be able to reproduce?

It was only after He sinned by eating the fruit that He felf aroused by looking at Eve's naked body.

Another point worth looking at was the fact that Adam was feeling to guilt, shame, or any sinfulness as He was pure as an animal having no sense of sin in his mind. He did not know sin.

Then how come Adam sinned when he did not understand it?

Why would God consider Adam sinful when he did not even understand sin until after He ate the fruit?

You won't blame a 2 year old child for eating a forbidden fruit when he did not understand what sin even was.

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Please don't give me a verse or tell me I cant change your mind.

Just justify the notion just mentioned and explain to me so it actually makes sense.

It will be hard and I know you can't give me an intellectual answer.

Therefore your religion has just been defeated by me!

Answer 1

wow
I have seen logic and I have seen.....well..........gee........I can't even think of anything clever to say here........

That was about as goofy of a statement as I have read in here........

But , hey,,,,,,,,,I get a kick out of your perspective........

Answer 2

Stating that you can debunk a several thousand year old religious ideology on the grounds of a man getting an erection (or not), is purely narcissistic. The fact that you won't accept public criticism or scrutiny only validates my observation.

Nonetheless, here's my two cents:

As is, your entire statement is based upon the hypothesis that the forbidden fruit was sex. For all anyone knows, that is an incorrect assumption which retroactively makes you wrong in your observation. It is also completely ignorant (or stupid, you decide) to assume that the entire Christian faith structure is based around a single, metaphorical story involving a guy and his woman and what they did or did not do, with or without knowing about it.

It also might be of interest to point out that you assume that nudity instantly warrants an erection. Is that so? Many people consider such things as lingerie to be sexually arousing, but what if everyone wore skimpy clothing all the time? (Might be awesome, right?) After a while it would lose its appeal. Kind of like having the same wardrobe for years on end. Fashions change because people get tired of the same old thing. Basic logic would tell you how that applies to the situation of Adam and Eve being nude 24/7.

Also, if you really know so much about that story as to make such statements, then you would also know that God considered Adam sinful because Adam went against God, eating the fruit when he wasn't supposed to. Because God told him not to do something and he did it anyways. Obviously, the story states that Adam was a man (not a child) which instantly means that he would know what "Don't do it." meant. Even before Adam ate the fruit, he rebuked Eve for offering it to him. So he obviously knew that he wasn't supposed to. Ignorance is doing something, not knowing any better. Stupidity is knowing better, but doing it anyways. As Christian theology states that people are forgiven for sins of ignorance, it is perfectly in tune with the rest of Christian theology that God considered Adam's actions a sin.

I'm not saying that you're wrong for questioning the contents (and possible flaws) of this particular story. I am, however, willing to point out the fact that you didn't really think this one through.

Answer 3

Before the fruit was eaten:

Genesis 2:25:
25 The man and his wife were both naked, and they felt no shame.

Still looking for the scripture that says God wanted them to reproduce before the eating of the fruit, can you help me out here?

BTW, since when is married people having sex a sin (or evil)? Since when is getting aroused by your wife a sin?

Hmmm...didn't God create Adam out dust, and Eve from Adam's rib? I don't think creating human beings was really a problem for God (assuming He did want to populate the earth).

Next.

Answer 4

God made Eve for Adam so he wouldn't be lonely when God wasn't in the Garden....it doesn't say how long this was until Eve . God made sex to be pleasurable and before they disobeyed God They lived together and did what all humans do it was how God wanted it....when they went against God, sin came into the picture...they were ashamed because of sin, sex was not a sin until they ate of the forbidden fruit..it's not that they ate of the fruit, it's that they disobeyed a direct warning..not to eat of the fruit ,then everything they did was a sin, because they were sin after that...they were ashamed because of what they did and hid from God and God cursed them and the Devil and we've been paying for Adams sin ever since then......

Answer 5

I am sorry but you are quoting the wrong Bible. The story of Genesis, Adam, Eve, the Garden of Eden, the Apple, the Snake, the Original Sin are all in my Bible, The Jewish Bible. The Christian Bible or the "New" Testament only has the "Old" testament in it so that Christianity can follow in the monotheism that was created in the "Old" Testament.

Also, since this will kill your original statement about the end of Christianity, your logic is beyond me. If anything if you really believe what you wrote, it will be the end of Judaism. This I really doubt because Judaism has been around for almost 6000 years, Christianity has been around for about 2000 years, and Islam (which believes in both Testaments and the Third Testament, the Koran) has been around for about 1600 years.

Please find better proof for your arguments next time. I really enjoy these kinds of questions. To prove it I will give you a star.

Answer 6

first if u tell someone not to do something if u love me, will u ?
and if that person did it anyway u would feel bad , and u would like "dont u love me "??
about the naked bodies, they just didnt see it , cos all they was having in mind was GOD , when they sinned, their mind had part of it been sinned so they saw each other flaws and of course he had an erection , u never felt bad after playing ( i cried alot in the past after each time i played with myself and im not good as they are , so imagine them , they did it only for children not for the fun of it.
to be honest im not the one who can convince u or change ur mind but if u really want an answer GOOGLE for Coptic churches and send them ur questions ,they will answer u ( they may not answer too cos not sure of the email system they got lol) but must be Coptic church cos they r just believing from heart and they know all )
good luck

Answer 7

Well, it was a little long winded, and your 2nd post a little boastful, but you essentially got the illogic of the very idea of "first sin".
Adam was sinless, and knew not sin until he ate of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, which was a sin, but he didn't know that until he ate the fruit so, uhm, God kind of set Adam and Eve up. It was a dirty trick right from Chapter 1.

Answer 8

well im no christian, but i figure that god sounds like a bit of a lunatic....besides kicking his son and daughter out of the garden, he also wanted them to re-populate the earth together. this sounds like somer serious hillbilly ****.

i suppose we can ignore that, even though he condemns incest. but then he expects adam and eves children to re-populate the world with their mother....at least im pretty sure they only had 2 sons cain and able hmmm....this is getting suspicious.

oh well, forget i said that. oh wait, another time he expects moses to re-populate the planet with his wife and 6 children(3 girls and 3 boys). this is all getting a lil weird, i was darn sure he said incest was a sin.

so he's an incestuous homophobe.....well i think i know where he is, if he exists. id guess on a trailer court, somewhere in the bible belt, id start with alabama.

hope this helps, cheers mate

Answer 9

I'm sorry but your argument fails to convert me.

Re: I think it is quite bold to assume that you can conceive of how Adam felt, you being a bondservant of sin. Perhaps if you knew what love was, then you might also know that with God nothing is impossible.

Answer 10

i might consider the two certainly one of your counts. My own opinion is that that's in many situations the church that places those suggestions into peoples heads ... concern and repenting. as long as you repent once you sin, you're ok. a minimum of it relatively is my effect. even although I study the Bible on occasion, i attempt to permit my very own own dating with God be my cornerstone. i do no longer circulate to church via fact i discover maximum persons there to be slightly judgemental, or uninviting. The Bible says, although, that people who have not been taught approximately God or Jesus are no longer exempt from desiring to have faith in God ... that God could desire to be glaring in everyday life. it relatively is what introduced me returned to Christianity after some years of finding at different religions/techniques of thinking. I keep in mind this quote from Hamlet: "My words fly up, my suggestions proceed to be below: words devoid of suggestions in no thank you to heaven circulate." i think of it relatively is how a super form of persons are. Sorry if this did no longer extremely answer your question. basically throwing some stuff available.

Answer 11

Delusions of grandeur can be so entertaining.
The point of the story is that humanity as we know it began when man decided to disobey the laws of the wild, and choose knowledge over nature. Adam and Eve were expelled because they decided to do things their way. Their rebellion was the beginning of "human" thought.

Maybe when/if you grow up, and take a logic course, you'll understand how absolutely ridiculous your conclusion is.

Until then: BlAHhAHhAHHAH!!

Thanks for the laugh, kid.