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For that mater can anyone give me any time that someone was killed in the name of atheism?

2007-10-15 16:24:31 · 13 answers · asked by BaBaMoose 3 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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While Stalin, Mao, and company were certainly among the most of insideous of historical figures, those who claim they killed because of their atheism failed to show any connection between their atheism and the massacres. The historical truth is that they killed to eliminate political opposition. Moreover, they forbade religion so they could, in essence, establish themselves as God-like leaders, as many Chinese who suffered Mao's tyranny will tell you. Kim Jung Il continues this strategy in North Korea.

Regardless of how evil these men were/are, they did not kill in the name of atheism. They were merely atheists who killed. This is a huge logical difference-- not that religious people are generally persuaded by logic. For example, in the Bible, which Christians say is the perfect word of a perfect God, God says "Thou shalt not kill" in the same section in which he says that people who work on the sabbath should be killed. Would a perfect God contradict himself like that? Jesus also commanded his followers to slaughter anyone who does not accept him as the son of God. (Luke 19:27--"But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.")

Just look at the loving history of Christianity. What better way to represent a loving God than with Inquisitions and burnings at the stake?

History is replete with examples of religious people using violence to force their beliefs on others. Humanists don't strap bombs to themselves and blow up innocent people in public places in the name of their skepticism, nor do they crash planes into buildings, nor start wars against people in other countries because the people there don't share their nonbelief.

Scientists, who overwhelmingly tend not to be religious, are responsible for nearly all of human progress. That's because they utilize reason rather than the silly superstitions on which most people rely. It’s religion, not science, that threatens people with violence, torture, death, and even eternal damnation if you don’t agree with its ideas. Physicists never bullied people into believing Einstein’s Relativity Theory, and did you ever hear of Catholics falling victim to a Galilean inquisition? When was the last time a war was fought over some scientific dispute? When you think about it, wars are much more likely to be fought over stupid religious differences, not over who's the most logical.

Definitions of "superstition" from www.dictionary.com:
su·per·sti·tion
1. a belief or notion, not based on reason or knowledge, in or of the ominous significance of a particular thing, circumstance, occurrence, proceeding, or the like.
2. a system or collection of such beliefs.
3. a custom or act based on such a belief.
4. any blindly accepted belief or notion.

Religion will no longer cause such harm only when it's widely scorned and ridiculed as the abject superstition that it is. The Bible, Quran, and other fairy-tales do not prove the existence of God any more than Japanese monster movies prove the existence of Godzilla.

2007-10-15 20:29:39 · answer #1 · answered by RRRRComposer 2 · 2 0

Most wars that are waged in the name of religion really have nothing to do with religion. the use of religion as a rallying cry is an easy way to get a large group of people behind a cause that has nothing to do with their religous beliefs. Religion as an institution has almost always been used as a political tool, but to say that a war is in the name of religion is somewhat contradictory in that most religions preach nonviolence. I think a lot of people don't really understand what atheism is. You can't actively do or act on something that you don't believe in, so therefore a war in the name of atheism also sounds somewhat contradictory.

2007-10-15 16:38:50 · answer #2 · answered by Bob 2 · 2 0

October 1917 the Bolshevic revolution pitted the communists and anarchists against the russian orthodox czar. He was overthrown and communism and therefore atheism came to power til the fall of the Soviet Union.

July of1921 saw the overthrow of a primarily Bhuddist nation of China to the communist therefore atheist nation it is today.

June 20 1950 began the civil war it Korea which pitted the communist Chinese and North Korean government against the Bhuddist South.
Any time Communism wins a war, atheism results. (at least as the official religion.)

2007-10-15 16:40:19 · answer #3 · answered by Yo C 4 · 0 1

As far as I know no wars have ever been fought in the name of atheism but as far as someone killing someone in the name of atheism, there are lunatics out there that might have done that, who knows.

There is no advantage to an atheist fighting a war over atheism, why should an atheist care what others believe.

2007-10-15 16:35:48 · answer #4 · answered by Lesley 5 · 4 2

You are all mising the biggest war in the history of the Word

World War II was fought in the Name of Darwinism!

Hitler was greatly influinced by Darwins theory and decided to "improve" the human race by eliminating all "inferio" genes.

Darwin himself was a racist and believed that the "superior races" would invitable eliminate the "inferior" ones. This is stated in his writings.

Athiesm and its bed-mate Evolution are responsible for more deaths in the 20th century that al religions in the history of the world.

2007-10-15 16:55:26 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 2 2

War is the result of totalitarianism, that includes religion and communism and any tyranny that believes they have ultimate right over their fellow men.

2007-10-15 16:42:12 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

Many millions of people were put to death by that Great Atheist,the late Josef Stalin. China puts people to death daily although they do not actually practice genocide so far as I know. Atheist cultures are notorious for brutality. No major war of modern times has in any way been motivated by religious values. It had nothing to do with either world war. Since you evidently regard atheists as delightful and fluffy,I would recommend that you google up "Holodomar" and inform us as to just what precisely you find delightful and fluffy about the murder by starvation of 7 milllion Ukrainians. But even before that many thousands of priests were put to death and many practicing Christians thrown into gulags because they refused to relinquish their faith. Atheist governments are very fearful of religion in any form and invariably deeply hostile to it. Hatred of religion is a fundamental tenet of Marxism.

2007-10-15 16:35:47 · answer #7 · answered by Galahad 7 · 2 3

My source is The Guinness Book of World Records . Look up the category "Judicial" and under the subject of "Crimes: Mass Killings," the greatest massacre ever imputed by the government of one sovereign against the government of another is 26.3 million Chinese during the regime of Mao Tse Tung between the years of 1949 and May 1965. The Walker Report published by the U.S. Senate Committee of the Judiciary in July 1971 placed the parameters of the total death toll in China since 1949 between 32 and 61.7 million people. An estimate of 63.7 million was published by Figaro magazine on November 5, 1978.

In the U.S.S.R. the Nobel Prize winner, Alexander Solzhenitsyn estimates the loss of life from state repression and terrorism from October 1917 to December 1959 under Lenin and Stalin and Khrushchev at 66.7 million.

Finally, in Cambodia (and this was close to me because I lived in Thailand in 1982 working with the broken pieces of the Cambodian holocaust from 1975 to 1979) "as a percentage of a nation's total population, the worst genocide appears to be that in Cambodia, formerly Kampuchea. According to the Khmer Rouge foreign minister, more than one third of the eight million Khmer were killed between April 17, 1975 and January 1979. One third of the entire country was put to death under the rule of Pol Pot, the founder of the Communist Party of Kampuchea. During that time towns, money and property were abolished. Economic execution by bayonet and club was introduced for such offenses as falling asleep during the day, asking too many questions, playing non-communist music, being old and feeble, being the offspring of an undesirable, or being too well educated. In fact, deaths in the Tuol Sleng interrogation center in Phnom Penh, which is the capitol of Kampuchea, reached 582 in a day."

Then in Chinese history of the thirteenth to seventeenth centuries there were three periods of wholesale massacre. The numbers of victims attributed to these events are assertions rather than reliable estimates. The figures put on the Mongolian invasion of northern China form 1210 to 1219 and from 1311 to 1340 are both on the order of 35 million people. While the number of victims of bandit leader Chang Hsien-Chung, known as the Yellow Tiger, from 1643 to 1647 in the Szechwan province has been put at 40 million people.

China under Mao Tse Tung, 26.3 million Chinese. According the Walker Report, 63.7 million over the whole period of time of the Communist revolution in China. Solzhenitsyn says the Soviet Union put to death 66.7 million people. Kampuchea destroyed one third of their entire population of eight million Cambodians. The Chinese at two different times in medieval history, somewhere in the vicinity of 35 million and 40 million people. Ladies and gentlemen, make note that these deaths were the result of organizations or points of view or ideologies that had left God out of the equation. None of these involve religion. And all but the very last actually assert atheism.

2007-10-15 16:29:41 · answer #8 · answered by srprimeaux 5 · 2 3

there arent any-now some will say this and that but no-no wars have been fought in the name of atheism-i think you know this now lets see how many wrong answers you get---keep smiling and enjoy the night

2007-10-15 16:30:38 · answer #9 · answered by lazaruslong138 6 · 6 3

"Think communism"? What an absurd response. Communism isn't about atheism. God was taken place by faces of communist rulers. Those people weren't atheists, they were Stalinists or what have you.

2007-10-15 16:32:29 · answer #10 · answered by the a-hole loser 1 · 4 3

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