when you ask them WHY WERE THEY DISFELLOWSHIPPED, or why was their loved one disfellowshipped, they are suddenly hush mouth and reclusive? They boast and brag about how they hate Jehovah's Witnesses and "the truth" so much after their disfellowshipping, but then they never want to state why they were disfellowshipped in the first place?
From my experience it appears that they know the reason for their being disfellowshipped was valid and was so egregious, but they get so angry, fully of revenge and distain, that they never repent against the reason for their being disfellowshipped, yet instead turn bitter and even more wicked than the initial reason for their being removed.
Do you think they don't understand that they didn't receive just one warning, but several, yet they would not heed the counsel from the elders so ultimately they were disfellowshipped? You'd think they would say to themselves: "Wow, I'd better clean my act up as not to bring uncleanliness to the congregation
2007-10-15 15:15:13 · 23 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
but to keep the congregation and organization clean", yet many refuse to "clean up their acts" even going on to worse and more severe wicked behavior, then they want to blast it to the public about how they "hate Witnesses" and how crazy they are, etc.
Does anyone else find something severely wrong with this backwards, yet very evil way of thinking?
They don't want to repent and do right, so why would they want to hang around the congregation and taint others with their immoral acts of uncleanliness?
It's a no-brainer to me. How about you intelligent Witnesses? Thanks.
2007-10-15 15:17:36 · update #1
Unsilenced Lamb: I believe you sent me an email and I responded. Since then I have read many of your posts, and it's very sad they kind of comments you made. I may get irritated at times, but I can never relinquish my stronghold for Jehovah that means my dedication to him. I have seen many of your posts. I do believe you are an apostate so you know what happens now. Thank you and may you find your way back to Jehovah. End
2007-10-16 16:37:49 · update #2
Honestly, it is rarely if ever fun to be caught doing something wrong, and No one likes getting in trouble.
When my brother was first disfellowshipped, he was very bitter. Suddenly "ALL the brothers and sisters" was how allot of his sentences started. As time went on he calmed down and realised that the brothers didn't do something to him, he did it to himself.
2007-10-16 01:36:29 · answer #1 · answered by Ish Var Lan Salinger 7 · 21⤊ 3⤋
Just go to another church one time and document the incident. That's all it takes. They don't like competition, lol! On the other hand, if you're like me and you're not that interested in other religions, just bring some information about Silent Lambs (the non-profit dedicated to helping molestation victims of JW's) or AJWRB (Associated Jehovah's Witnesses for Reform on Blood) to a kingdom hall meeting and pass it out to a few people. I'm a bigger fan of walking away without getting disfellowshipped - nothing is more frustrating to some jw's than a person who is not officially labeled as disfellowshipped and yet gets away with pointing out the hypocrisy of the watchtower organization.
2016-04-09 00:27:26 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
A disfellowshipped person is one who is an unrepentant violator of Jehovah's Laws.
To fear God means we have a fear of displeasing Him because we know Jehovah loves us and has feelings.
If we commit a great sin in God's eyes we know what the scriptures teach us and we should be humble and accept the discipline and repent. Jehovah disciplines those that He loves. We know discipline is hard to accept at times but it's for our benefit because it brings us closer to Jehovah.
If one is disfellowshipped they can still attend all the meetings at the Kingdom Hall and speak to the Elders.
Jehovah is love and He wants those that have been disfellowshipped to come back to their senses and realize they have committed a major sin.
Jesus is the Head of the Congregation and the Congregation needs to be clean.
For the spiritual health of the Congregation it would not be reasonable to allow an unrepentant fornicator or drug user to go unpunished and affect the cleanness of the Congregation. They are spiritually sick and need help.
I just don't understand those that because of their error turn on our Dear Brothers and Sisters and fight against the truth.
They think they are fighting against us but they are actually fighting against Jehovah God.
The truth is so beautiful. Jehovah is love and He is a God of forgiveness.
Just humble yourself and pray to Jehovah through Jesus Christ and repent.
We need to be humble and repent.
Jehovah is ready to forgive.
2007-10-16 13:21:21 · answer #3 · answered by Jason W 4 · 11⤊ 3⤋
What characteristics identify apostates as distinct from true Christians?
An apostasy among professed Christians was foretold by the apostle Paul at 2 Thessalonians 2:3. He specifically mentioned certain apostates, such as Hymenaeus, Alexander, and Philetus. (1Ti 1:19, 20; 2Ti 2:16-19) Among the varied causes of apostasy set forth in apostolic warnings were: lack of faith (Heb 3:12), lack of endurance in the face of persecution (Heb 10:32-39), abandonment of right moral standards (2Pe 2:15-22), the heeding of the "counterfeit words" of false teachers and "misleading inspired utterances" (2Pe 2:1-3; 1Ti 4:1-3; 2Ti 2:16-19; compare Pr 11:9), and trying "to be declared righteous by means of law" (Ga 5:2-4). While still making profession of faith in God's Word, apostates may forsake his service by treating lightly the preaching and teaching work that he assigned to followers of Jesus Christ. (Lu 6:46; Mt 24:14; 28:19, 20) They may also claim to serve God but reject his representatives, his visible organization, and then turn to 'beating' their former associates to hinder their work. (Jude 8, 11; Nu 16:19-21; Mt 24:45-51) Apostates often seek to make others their followers. (Ac 20:30; 2Pe 2:1, 3) Such ones willfully abandoning the Christian congregation thereby become part of the "antichrist." (1Jo 2:18, 19) As with the apostate Israelites, destruction is likewise foretold for apostates from the Christian congregation.-2Pe 2:1; Heb 6:4-8
During the period of persecution that the early Christian congregation experienced at the hands of the Roman Empire, professed Christians were at times induced to deny their Christian discipleship, and those who did so were required to signify their apostasy by making an incense offering before some pagan god or by openly blaspheming the name of Christ.
It is evident that there is a distinction between a 'falling' due to weakness and the 'falling away' that constitutes apostasy. The latter implies a definite and willful withdrawal from the path of righteousness. (1Jo 3:4-8; 5:16, 17) Whatever its apparent basis, whether intellectual, moral, or spiritual, it constitutes a rebellion against God and a rejection of his Word of truth.-2Th 2:3, 4;
2007-10-16 17:41:36 · answer #4 · answered by ? 5 · 9⤊ 2⤋
It reminds me of children who want to blame their parents for all their bad decisions. Part of being repentant is accepting the responsibility in the decisions you make. Otherwise, we would be like Adam .."the woman whom you gave me, she gave me the fruit from the tree and so I ate."
The elders didn't make this person do what they did, or make them be unrepentant. If they had lived a clean life, the elders would not have had to be involved. Before my sister was disfellowshipped, one of the elders told me that you practically had to ask to be disfellowshipped. They tried to talk to her, she told one of the elders in front of me "I'm happy, do what you have to do." They still waited almost two months before she was disfellowshipped, hoping she would come to her senses. After she's disfellowshipped, and everyone is treating her different, she's mad and blames the truth for "kicking her out". I can thankfully say, that after five years, she is now reinstated and has such a different attitude.
Disfellowshipping was what she needed to help her realize what she had given up and to see the importance of doing things Jehovah's way.
We can see why those you describe were removed from the congregation. They are truly unrepentant.
2007-10-16 04:50:42 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 17⤊ 3⤋
You can usually tell who was disfellowshipped by the hate in their words. They seem to forget that we all know that people are not disfellowshipped at the drop of a hat- it's only after a lot of effort on the part of the elders to readjust such ones.
They have such hate because they realize that we are moving on without them. They miss the warmth and love and great association, but they still want to live in an ungodly way, and it hurts them to realize that they can't have it both ways since JWs are not tolerant where it comes to sinful practices.
The faithful conduct of remaining ones hurts them because it shows that they CHOSE to disobey- we all live in the same evil world, how come the other 6 million-and-something JWs have managed to withstand the pressure?
Most of the ones who might've just been raised in the truth or were just interested but later decided that they'd rather live their lives according to the norms of the world usually just move on with their lives, and would mention what they did not agree with.
Yeah, they don't fool nobody!
2007-10-16 01:57:22 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 21⤊ 4⤋
A lot of them who have been disfellowshipped, fail to realize that they made a choice to do wrong.........granted, we are ALL imperfect and fall short, but we know when we are headed for a wrong course.....even little children know when they're doing wrong.
Sometimes though, ex-witnesses will try to justify their behavior and not be willing to admit they are just wrong!
It amazes me how much hatred they display for ones who continue to strive to be faithful, I have never understood that!
If they don't want the truth, by all means leave, it's a personal choice, but don't try to bad mouth the rest of us who love Jehovah and Jesus.
2007-10-16 13:56:47 · answer #7 · answered by sugarbee 7 · 10⤊ 2⤋
Not all disfellowshiped people have been given a fair go , the elders are only human and make mistakes.
It has taken me years to forgive the elders but I have never hated the JW's and I think if you search my answers and questions I have never said a bad word about the JW's " in fact I have encouraged others to seek out the truth.
I am in the process of attempting to be reinstated but I feel at times I am wasting my time as those same elders are still in charge and still can not see the error of their way.
Don't take me wrong since leaving the truth I have turned to lots of drinking , smoking , gambling and many other vices so I am not pretending all this time I have been pure but in the last six months I have changed for the better.
2007-10-16 02:59:46 · answer #8 · answered by pestie58 the spider hunter 6 · 21⤊ 4⤋
Some very good answers, I have nothing to add, just that those people are just very strange in my opinion. It's getting so that when I pray I say to Jehovah, "Can't you just do something with those people?" I know I should be more forgiving but I never said I was perfect. Would like to encourage pestie58 in his reinstatement efforts.
2007-10-16 16:40:02 · answer #9 · answered by ? 4 · 7⤊ 2⤋
Thankfully some do see the benefit of disfellowshipping and return to the congregation. Many of these disgruntled ex-Jehovah's Witnesses saw this happening when they were still in the truth.
I think the way they treat their fomer brothers and sisters is anything but Christ-like. They also offer no alternative, they are only interested in eroding faith. It amazes me that they fail to see how counter-productive their methods are. By continually berating faithful Witnesses and aiming to undermine their beliefs, they effectively push them away from listening to what they have to say. They also seem to be more interested in posting links to spurious websites than using the Bible.
Those ex-Jehovah's Witnesses who hang around Yahoo Answers must also realise that they are speaking to a very small audience compared to the worldwide brotherhood of Jehovah's Witnesses. If they feel they have the truth, I would encourage them to expand their ministry and come to my area to preach it publicly. Or are my neighbours undeserving of their message?
2007-10-16 03:22:40 · answer #10 · answered by Iron Serpent 4 · 17⤊ 4⤋