OK, everybody knows how the LS Church used to deny the priesthood to African Americans until 1978, and then they defend themselves saying that "God revealed" that the teaching was repealed. Mormons love to say "Blacks have always been accepted in the church" But what no one talks about is the type of acceptace that Mormons refer to when they say that. Why did Elder Mark Roberts say: "In spite of all he did in the pre-existent life, the Lord is willing, if the ***** accepts the gospel with real, sincere faith, and is really converted, to give him the blessings of baptism and the gift of the Holy Ghost. If that ***** is faithful all his days, he can and will enter the celestial kingdom. He will go there as a servant, but he will get celestial glory"? That had nothing to do with the priesthood revelation. Mormons still privately believe that black people will be servants in heaven.
2007-10-15
12:16:21
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Sorry, not Roberts, Mark Petersen, Apostle of the Chrch - read these my friends. I am only quoting your church, don't insult me for quotes that you guys came up with! Read and learn! http://realmormonhistory.com/god&skin.htm
2007-10-15
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SSSShhhhh... you're NOT SUPPOSED to bring up the actual FACTS of the mormons... especially to THEM! The "elders" want their followers to live in blissful ignorance of what the mormon doctrines actually teach. Why do you think that most mormons think they are a Christian denomination and not the cult they actually are? Did you know that there are mormons who will actually steal anti-mormon books from the library shelves just so people will be unable to read any "opposing" views? I know this... I've worked in 3 libraries!
Have a blessed day.
2007-10-15 13:00:02
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answered by wyomugs 7
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I'm not white and i'm still a member of the church, and I don not have anything against black people. Don't pretend to know the private thoughts of others! The church was recieving a lot of persecution from other religions almost as much as racial discrimination. There could be no guaranteed protection for black or white members had the church extended full fellowship to other races, the church still however invited different people to the church. If you're going to attack our church, bear in mind that it was christians that started groups like the KKK. The actions and words of a few individuals does not define the religion itself. I do not deny that there are racist people in my church, but It does not matter what religion I switch to, racial discrimination is still there, in school, and at work.
2007-10-15 13:53:14
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answered by Anonymous
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no we don't believe that. And who the heck is mark roberts? I just did a search on www.lds.org and got no results for that name so he is obviously not an lds leader. He may be a member but he cannot speak for the church.
EDIT: Mark Petersen is not an apostle of our church either. Try again.
I stand corrected. He was an apostle years ago. He died over 30 years ago. What I can't find is the article he is supposedly quoted from.
Go to this website: http://www.byub.org/devotionals/
and find me that talk. If you can, I'll listen to whatever you have to say. But as far as I can find, Mark E. Petersen never said that!
2007-10-15 12:21:43
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answered by gumby 7
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No, it relatively is baptizing them, giving them the Priesthood, and having them Married for Time and all Eternity interior the LDS Temples, and granting them each and every earnings of Celestial Glory. i would not probably evaluate it "Affirmative action", even though it surely begs the question is the LDS Church racist, lol. as a count number of actuality the e book of Mormon itself mentions a time while the darker race have been greater righteous and greater suited to God than the white guy. So extremely there'll probable be a super form of "whities", who would be servants.
2016-10-07 00:06:15
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answered by gisriel 4
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All that are qualified for entrance into the Celestial Kingdom, but failed to obey the new and everlasting covenant of eternal marriage, will be servants, or angels, to varied degrees.
Section 132 in the Doctrine and Covenants does not mention any divisions by race or color.
2007-10-15 13:57:32
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answered by Guitarpicker 7
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There was a curse of slavery on Canaan (the son of Ham, Noah's son) by Noah, and some believe that his descendants populated Africa, but his descendants populated the land above Judah, later to be known as Samaria, and is now part of Israel. It was Ham's son, Mizraim whose descendants populated Africa.
I personally believe that this misconception was devised to justify slavery in the United States some 200 years ago.
2007-10-15 12:31:31
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answered by Caveman 5
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You're not quoting our church, just one person in it. Why he said it, I don't know, but he must have believed it. That doesn't mean that ALL Mormons believed it, or believe it now.
If I quote a non-LDS Christian pastor say that women are second class and should not be heard in church at all, and should keep to the back, etc., can I then say that ALL non-LDS Christians believe this?
2007-10-15 14:52:42
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answered by mormon_4_jesus 7
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You are evidently unaware that one of the reasons Mormons were persecuted and driven out of Missouri in the 1800's is because they were not slave holders and supported abolishing slavery. Missouri was one of the sourthern states that held tightly to slavery. Fear of political power because of the number of 'Mormons' moving into the state caused many of the mobs which eventually drove the early 'Mormons' westward.
2007-10-16 05:05:24
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answered by strplng warrior mom 6
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There is nothing in the Mormon doctrine that means that anybody will enter heaven as a slave. I think that whatever you have read was misinterpreted. Please continue your search though. You may find the link below helpful in answering your questions about Mormons.
2007-10-15 14:36:01
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answered by Anonymous
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I suppose it could be interpreted in that way; but it could just as well be interpreted in that "He will go there as a servant, but he will get celestial glory" is the same thing as saying we are servants of god, or blacks may bask in the glory of god as well, or some such thing. Thats how it seems it could be.
2007-10-15 12:21:00
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answered by Anonymous
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Black,s are God,s children just like the white,and no one will be in front of the other in Heaven,we will all be equal.
2007-10-15 12:26:35
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answered by Anonymous
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