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I know some denominations believe that we have do do works, such as penance, to get full forgiveness. They believe that works play a role in salvation. In remaining saved. I say this belief says that the blood of Jesus is not enough. That His sacrifice was not enough to save us. We must add to it. I say this belief makes Jesus' sacrifice worthless and is the greatest of heresies. What say you?

2007-10-15 11:15:48 · 15 answers · asked by Bible warrior 5 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

Let me add before I get killed that I believe His blood is more than enough. I am just stating what I think people who say they can add to it do in my opinion and I want to know what others think.

2007-10-15 11:21:47 · update #1

lovinghelpertojoe - yes exactly the point.

2007-10-15 11:40:05 · update #2

We are told in Romans how to get saved. Works play no part in it.

Romans 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
Rom 10:10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

2007-10-15 12:47:22 · update #3

Michael P - I am not saying we will not have works. I am saying that works do not and can not save you. It is impossible to add to what Jesus did.

2007-10-15 13:45:49 · update #4

kait - great example.

2007-10-15 15:29:18 · update #5

DougLawrence - would you please show me where I said we can sin as much as we want. I do not believe that in the least. We should do our best to live sin free. However the works add nothing to our salvation. We do them because we love Jesus not because they play a role in our salvation.

2007-10-15 16:25:25 · update #6

15 answers

Yes the blood of Jesus is more than enough.
Suppose a unknown benefactor—someone with whom I had no previous dealings whatsoever—sent me a check for $1,000,000. The money is mine if I want it, but I still must endorse the check. In no way can signing my name be considered earning the million dollars—the endorsement is a non-work. I can never boast about becoming a millionaire through sheer effort or my own business savvy. No, the million dollars was simply a gift, and signing my name was the only way to receive it. Similarly, exercising faith is only the way to receive the generous gift of God, and faith cannot be considered a work worthy of the gift.
Blessings
Kaitlynn

2007-10-15 14:44:05 · answer #1 · answered by Freedom 7 · 0 0

So what exactly is required for salvation according to your belief? Admitting Jesus into your heart through prayer? Isn't that itself a work?

I too believe that the sacrifice Jesus made was more than enough. I believe it was infinite, however we still need to accept that gift by doing our best to follow his commandments and repenting when we fall short.

Edit: But isn't confessing with your mouth a work?

2007-10-15 12:45:02 · answer #2 · answered by Senator John McClain 6 · 0 0

sufficient for....forgiveness? confident, He grow to be the only one that should catch up on our sins. As yet another reported in spite of the undeniable fact that, the atonement has no impression on people who do no longer use it. this is thru repentance and obedience to the guidelines and ordinances of the gospel, that we are forgiven. If Christ's atonement grow to be purely a "loose for all"...what may well be the purpose of this existence? Why might we've stressful circumstances, why might we desire the gospel? the only factor truthfully everyone gets because of the fact of Christ's sacrifice is immortality. it quite is the "loose present". no longer salvation. That could desire to be gained, like I stated by using obedience to the guidelines and ordinances of the gospel. yet, shall we additionally no longer benefit salvation if Christ had in no way made that sacrifice the two... it quite is unquestionably, my own theory. Others could disagree and that's nice. that's what Mormons have confidence.

2016-12-18 08:29:52 · answer #3 · answered by ? 4 · 0 0

I think some are missing the point of the question.

The person who quoted James 2:14-26. One of my favorite books of the Bible, and scripture we just studied this week in our Pastor's sermon. A quick summary: Works do not produce salvation, but salvation produces works.

If one has truly placed their faith in our Lord Jesus Christ, they will change. If they do not, and they do not begin to bear fruit, and have the works that salvation produces, they need to examine their heart. They may be having faith in a fact, and not truly placing themselves at the feet of Jesus, and living for Him in their life.

Once again, an excellent topic.

God bless.

2007-10-15 11:33:55 · answer #4 · answered by lovinghelpertojoe 3 · 0 1

It's like if you have a little boy who wants a bicycle and you want to help him learn how to earn money for it, but he works so hard doing chores for you and still doesn't have nearly enough to pay for the bike. So you tell him if he uses all the money he earned and throws in a hug and a kiss, you will pay the rest for him.

Jesus wants us to show Him we are willing to try our best to do what he asks, then if we present that to him along with all our love and pleading for help, he will make up the difference.

Jesus asked us to do certain things, to follow his commandments, but he knew we would fall short many times, so that's why he died for us. Greater love hath no man. His atoning sacrifice is inifinite and eternal; more than enough to cover all our sins. But just as you would want your sons and daughters to love you and follow your guidance, our Savior wants the same from us. He wants to help us become all we can with His help and reach our full potential. But we can't do it without him.

2007-10-15 11:28:25 · answer #5 · answered by seekingtoad 4 · 2 0

Jesus didn't die so a bunch of low lifes could sin all they want.

When we sin we offend God, and we have a responsibility to do what we can to make up for it, even though only Jesus' atoning sacrifice could really get the job done.

Uniting our penance and sacrifices with Christ's is the way to do it.

That doesn't make Jesus' sacrifice worthless ... it just makes our sacrifices more acceptable to God.

2007-10-15 15:42:42 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

The carcass of an unclean animal defiles (Leviticus 11:26). On these grounds alone, human beings are disqualified for sacrificial purposes. Jesus, as a human being, was unfit for sacrificial purposes.

An animal blood atonement offering must be physically unblemished (Leviticus 22:18- 25). According to the evangelists, Jesus was physically abused prior to his execution (Matthew 27:26, Mark 15:15, John 19:1; John 20:25; Matthew 27:29, Mark 15:17, John 19:2). According to Paul, Jesus' circumcision constituted "mutilation" (Philippians 3:2) and is likened to "castration" (Galatians 5:12). As a result, Jesus would again be disqualified as a valid sacrifice.

The New Testament's claim that Jesus' death was "one sacrifice for sin for all time" (Hebrews 10:12) is not supported by the Hebrew Scriptures. Mere death, no matter what was the extent of the preceding violence or pain, does not satisfy the biblical requirements for those times when a blood atonement sacrifice is offered. In a blood atonement offering the animal (clean species and unblemished) must actually die as a result of blood loss. That is why it is called "a blood atonement sacrifice."

Jesus (unclean human species and blemished) did not die within the Temple precinct, at the hands of an Aaronic priest, or through the shedding of blood. Jesus' blood was not sprinkled on the altar by the Aaronic high priest (Leviticus 16:18-19). Animal sacrifice, offered as a blood atonement, must conform to the biblical guidelines set down in Leviticus 17:11: (a) Bloodshed (by means of shechitah--Deuteronomy 12:21), (b) Given solely to the Jewish people, (c) Blood sprinkled upon the Temple altar.

Jesus' humanity, the physical state of his body, and the manner of his death (crucifixion) do not satisfy any blood atonement provisions found in the Hebrew Scriptures.

2007-10-15 11:22:47 · answer #7 · answered by Primary Format Of Display 4 · 1 4

I don't know that Jesus' blood "isn't enough," but I'd have to question the validity of the notion that Jesus would just give the gift to everyone, even those who blasphemed Him and hated Him.

It's not a matter of "earning" salvation, but rather of appreciating it and not throwing it back in His face. Keep in mind that "faith" itself is a work.

2007-10-15 11:20:51 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 3 1

It is enough for our salvation. However, James tells what is expected from us once we are saved.

Salvation is only by the mercy and grace of God.

2007-10-15 16:35:57 · answer #9 · answered by Nina, BaC 7 · 0 0

Jeffery Dahmer and Adolf Hitler and Hernan Cortez and David Koresh and Jim Jones and Hannibal Lecter.

They all believed in Jesus Christ.

Are they going to heaven?

What say YOU?

2007-10-15 12:25:55 · answer #10 · answered by ASE Master 3 · 1 1

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