Christians, what part of 'I'm not interested' do you not understand?

Question

I know your bible tells you to go forth and spread the word and all that, but guess what? EVERYBODY on planet Earth (save a few remote, isolated African or South American tribes) knows about Christianity!
So you did it, you spread the word. Mission accomplished. Hear ya loud and clear.
So what part of this sentence do you not understand? "I heard about Christianity. I learned about it. Then I made my own decision that does not favor Christianity. Go away please. I am not interested."
So that's not good enough for you? You feel the need to force your religion into public schools, government and my life? I don't believe the way you do, so you're going to FORCE me to?
Why can't Christians say: "I did my part, I spread the word. Some said yes, some said no, and now I'm just going to be happy with my beliefs and leave everyone else alone."

I simply do not recal the bible ever saying: "Go forth and spread the word of God. And if they don't listen to you, go to war and force them!"

Answer 1

You have to understand the Christian POV, which is something I've sincerely tried to do, as alien and absurd as it is to me. If you begin with the assumption that the Bible is 100% literally true (which is itself a totally absurd idea, but whatever), and that a literal Hell awaits for the people who don't "accept Jesus," then of COURSE you're going to be running around frantically trying to get everybody to convert. Either that, or you're morally as well as intellectually insane. Of course, a lot of "Christians" seem to gloat over the idea that the people who annoy them with their difference of opinion are going to roast for all eternity - that just shows you the type of people you're dealing with.

By the way, "Christians" thumbing me down - exactly which part do you disagree with? The part where I make a sincere effort to understand you? The part where I actually defend your stance on moral grounds? The part where I single out certain individuals who are obviously giving your religion a bad name by making it the excuse for their nastiness? Just wondering!

And the whole counter-argument that secularism is being "forced" on people just makes me laugh. Secularism is exactly what allows you to worship as you see fit. Secularism is what defends your religious freedom. If our society wasn't secular, we'd have to decide which of your competing Christian cults is the "correct" one for our theocracy, and odds are it's not going to be yours! Sorry that not everybody in the country has exactly the same opinion as you do; but since that's the case, I'd think "religious" people would be the most insistent that we keep Church and State separate!

Answer 2

So that's it. It's not about Christianity, but about basic tenets of many religions.

The Ten Commandments in a courthouse? Which religion is that? Christain? Judaism? Is it only because they're basic ideas codified in ten categories? Is there any accepted philosophical belief that is opposed to those tenets?

Where is religion being FORCED into public schools? Mandatory recital of the Lord's Prayer? Yes, that is, and should be, illegal. A government official should not be leading such an activity, either with voluntary or mandatory compliance.

Someone being allowed to pray in school? Why? The First Amendment prohibits the denial of anyone's religion. Because it bothers you? You bother ME, but you still have a right to be here AND say what you like. If I don't like it, I can go away. I suggest you do the same.

There is no current war conducted by the United States upon its citizens. (Calling it a war doesn't make it one.) And the U.S. is not currently in any international war to export Christianity, no matter how YOU may choose to view it.

A lot of people vote on laws based upon their religious viewpoint. But the law, itself, has no basis in any one religion. Those who say that abortion or gay marriage should be illegal because God says so have no valid basis for the substantiation of such laws. But if others can make a case based upon accepted civil concepts, then they would have a basis.

It sounds like you want to establish a country of NON-religion, and you're ranting about Christians only as a rationale for your preference.

Answer 3

Who said anything about going to war and forcing them? You are putting all christians into a rediculously narrow box. I am a christian and do not want any religion in public schools or public places (been there done that, protestant reformation remember?). Some christians consider other "christian" denominations false and are therefore unreached. I personally believe Catholicism and its flavors are a nice blend of corrupted christianity and pure paganism, which makes nearly all of South America and Europe an unreached group. So depending on who you ask, not EVERYBODY has been informed of true christianity.

Answer 4

Here's the other side . . . and there always is another side . . .

Them . . . "What do you do?"

Me . . . "I'm a pastor."

One of three things happens next . . .

Them . . . "You want to know what I think about religion?" And then we're off on a long tangent that often sounds a lot like this "question" as the person tells me everything wrong with Christianity since the crusades.

Or . . . They say, 'umm' and literally turn and walk away, without me saying another word.

Or . . . They assume my faith is exactly like theirs, and they start telling me everything they believe about God.

So. It's not that you're "not interested," it's that you got online, found this board, and went to a lot of effort to demonstrate to strangers how angry you are because someone wants to talk with you.

Someone, sometime, in a church somewhere, did a number on you, and so you assume all Christians are exactly the same . . .and you're angry with everyone who isn't like you. A curious position for someone who claims to value 'open-mindedness."

Answer 5

God was taken out of the schools.
Government has established that religion and government are separate.
Where is the force in your life? It seems to be the minority has spoken and been able to be heard.
Besides, with all of the school shootings and violence, why do people ask where's God in all of these tragedies?
You can't work where you are not wanted.
Nobody can force anything on anybody.

Get A Grip

Answer 6

I really think that there are things that you can do other than complain about it, tho. Like don't get on the R & S forum. Put up a "no soliciting" sign by your front door so the 7th Days and the LDS don't come knockin'. It's not that people are repeatedly persistant. It's just that each one of us gets a chance to offer up the cross to ya. So, if you're going to slap out your no soliciation sign - you might want to stay away from these types of forums, too. Just a suggestion.

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Answer 7

I'm Christian and I will NEVER try to force my beliefs down your throat. You have a right to worship or not worship as you see fit. Good luck. 2D

Answer 8

actually, i never noticed that Christians were "forcing" things into the schools and government. Actually, early American society placed it there. It is the new religion of "self" in America that is taking its place and forced religion out of public places.

Funny you are still soooo angry...you've won.

Sit back and enjoy your victory...at least during this lifetime.

Answer 9

I'm a Christian. I don't believe in aggressive proselytizing. Not all Christians do, just for the record. If you do not wish to become a Christian, that is your business.

Answer 10

I don't push if someone says that, but I would pray for that person. We don't have a convert or be killed policy as Christians. Have a good one.