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I want to see if my great-great grandmother is listed.

My grandfather told me she was full blooded Cherokee. I want to know if she was or not.

Her name was Rebecca Ann Rader. I'm not sure where she was born , but she lived in Jamestown Kentucky after she was married. Her husband's name was Joesph Lawless.

2007-10-15 06:39:55 · 4 answers · asked by Anonymous in Arts & Humanities Genealogy

4 answers

Here: http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalrolls/

Here: http://www.archives.gov/genealogy/tutorial/dawes/

There's also a discussion board about Indian territories here with the rolls discussion embedded:
http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/Indian-Territory-Roots/2000-08

I also found this on Rebecca: (REMEMBER: only solid documentation is proof of the following. Always dig deeper to find evidence in the form of certificates, deeds, newspaper articles, photographs, etc)
ID: I20086
Name: Rebecca Ann RADER
Sex: F
Birth: 18 APR 1855
Death: 29 JUN 1929
RELA: Natural
RELA: Natural
Note: Rebecca Ann twin sister to Mary Jane

Father: Henry Harrison RADER b: 25 FEB 1827 in Clay County, Kentucky
Mother: Mary Ann SEARCY b: 1836
http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=ls55&id=I20086

2007-10-15 09:15:58 · answer #1 · answered by avonfromstubby 4 · 0 0

As far as being registered goes you will have to check with the Nation.
Though a downfall of you Cherokee ancestry is that they have not kept very good records.
There are people who are in rolled in the Cherokee nation ( as well as others ) who are not native at all. Tribal I.D cards ( for some nations ) used to be sold to tourists for a small fee.

But your best bet is going to be and will be to call the Nation. Contact someone in the local B.I.A office or tribal council.
Be persistent though. There are on occasion people who resent the idea of non registered/non rez "natives" trying to claim ancient ancestry.
Do not allow anyone to get you down in your quest. Call multiple times a month/week if needed. But also do not expect to get answerers right away.
As mentioned above your nation is not known for its good record keeping, in fact quite the opposite.

Best of luck to you and if you need any help at all Let me know.

2007-10-18 22:58:31 · answer #2 · answered by Talon 2 · 0 1

I have found out some about my great, great grand mother. I found what appears to be her name on the Dawe Roll and roll number. I know her husband's name and her children's and so on. But how can I find out if it is her?

2014-07-26 03:13:28 · answer #3 · answered by Carol Crowder 1 · 0 0

Rebecca Ann Rader
Born: 18 Apr 1855
Russell, Kentucky, USA
Died: 29 Jun 1929

Thomas J Buchanan
Oliver Ollie Buchanan (B: 1881)
Joseph H Lawless
Benjamin Albert Lawless (B: 1888)
Henry Herbert Lawless (B: 1892)
Harvey Ora Lawless (B: 1896)


Spouse 1
Thomas J Buchanan
Born: 1853
Died: 1884
Marriage: 22 Feb 1880 in , Russell, Kentucky, USA
Children-- Sex-- Birth
Oliver Ollie Buchanan -- M-- 28 Feb 1881

Spouse 2
Joseph H Lawless
Born: Oct 1825
Died:
Marriage: 17 May 1887
Children-- Sex-- Birth
Benjamin Albert Lawless-- M --15 Nov 1888
Henry Herbert Lawless -- M-- 21 Mar 1892
Harvey Ora Lawless-- M --22 Apr 1896


Rebecca was noted to be a tiny woman. When Rebecca remarried Joe Lawless,
she had to give up her son Ollie Ray. Logan Coffey and his wife, Eliza Jane Lawless Coffey took Ollie and raised him.

www.ancestry.com--Rebecca & 4 previous generations:

(1). Rebecca Ann RADER was born 18 APR 1855 in Russell Co., Ky, and died 29 JUN 1929. She was the daughter of (2). Henry Harrison RADER and (3). Mary Ann SEARCY. She married Joseph LAWLESS. She married Thomas J. BUCHANAN, 22 FEB 1880. He was born 1853, and died BET. 1882 - 1887.

Generation No. 2

(2). Henry Harrison RADER was born 25 FEB 1827 in Clay Co., KY, and died 31 JAN 1897 in Casey Co., Ky. He was the son of (4). George Aaron RADER and (5). Mary Polly AMBROSE.

(3). Mary Ann SEARCY was born 1836, and died APR 1878 in Eli, Russell Co.,KY. She was the daughter of (6). Albert SEARCY and (7). Rebecca CASTEEL.

Children of Mary Ann SEARCY and Henry Harrison RADER are:(1). i. Rebecca Ann RADER was born 18 APR 1855 in Russell Co., Ky, and died 29 JUN 1929. She married Joseph LAWLESS. She married Thomas J. BUCHANAN 22 FEB 1880. He was born 1853, and died BET. 1882 - 1887.
ii. Mary Jane RADER was born 18 APR 1855 in Russell Co., Ky, and died 14 JUL 1947. She married General George Washington BOLIN 18 DEC 1873. He was born MAR 1849, and died ABT. 1901.
iii. George Albert RADER was born 28 AUG 1867.


Generation No. 3


(4). George Aaron RADER was born ABT. 1806, and died BET. 1870 - 1880 in Ross Creek, Evelyn, Lee Co.,KY. He was the son of (8). Henry Sr. RADER and (9). Jane WALTERS.


(5). Mary Polly AMBROSE was born 1801 in Burning Springs, Clay Co., KY.

Children of Mary Polly AMBROSE and George Aaron RADER are: i. Sally RADER was born ABT. 1824.
ii. Jane RADER was born ABT. 1826.
(2). iii. Henry Harrison RADER was born 25 FEB 1827 in Clay Co., KY, and died 31 JAN 1897 in Casey Co., Ky. He married Mary Ann SEARCY in Laurel County, Ky, daughter of Albert SEARCY and Rebecca CASTEEL. She was born 1836, and died APR 1878 in Eli, Russell Co.,KY. He married Mary Jane LAWLESS, 20 DEC 1880 in Russell County, KY, daughter of Joesph LAWLESS.
iv. Elizabeth RADER was born ABT. 1831. She married Aquilla WHITE 1855 in Owsley County, KY. He was born 1794. She married Seth ADKINS AFT. 1860. He was born ABT. 1840. She married James BRANDENBURG, 1892.
v. Mary Polly Ann RADER was born BET. 1825 - 1831.
vi. Fredrick RADER was born 20 OCT 1831 in Owsley Co.,KY. He married Nancy BRANDENBURG ABT. 1855, daughter of Joseph BRANDENBURG and Nancy SNOWDEN. She was born ABT. 1829 in Owsley Co.,KY. He married Lucinda COLLETTE, AUG 1886 in Jackson Co., Ky, daughter of Pleasant COLLETTE and Polly HALE. He married Armilda Millie STAMPER ,13 APR 1893 in Lee County, Ky, daughter of Albert STAMPER and Sarah MAYS. She was born 19 AUG 1862 in Canoe, Breathitt Co.,Ky, and died JUL 1936.
vii. Broderick Alan RADER was born ABT. 1837.

(6). Albert SEARCY.


(7). Rebecca CASTEEL.

Child of Rebecca CASTEEL and Albert SEARCY is:(3). i. Mary Ann SEARCY was born 1836, and died APR 1878 in Eli, Russell Co.,KY. She married Henry Harrison RADER in Laurel County, Ky, son of George Aaron RADER and Mary Polly AMBROSE. He was born 25 FEB 1827 in Clay Co., KY, and died 31 JAN 1897 in Casey Co., Ky.

Generation No. 4

(8). Henry Sr. RADER was born ABT. 1774 in VA or Germany, and died 1843 in Jackson Co.,KY. He was buried in Radford Hill Cemetary, in Maulden, Jackson Co.,KY.

(9). Jane WALTERS was born 1778, and died 27 AUG 1855 in Owsley Co.,KY. She was the daughter of (18). Robert WALTERS and (19). JANE?.

Children of Jane WALTERS and Henry Sr. RADER are:(4). i. George Aaron RADER was born ABT. 1806, and died BET. 1870 - 1880 in Ross Creek, Evelyn, Lee Co.,KY. He married Mary Polly AMBROSE 1822 in Burning Springs, Clay Co.,KY. She was born 1801 in Burning Springs, Clay Co., KY.
ii. Elizabeth Betsy RADER. She married Hawkins BRUMMETS 24 SEP 1830 in Clay Co.,KY.
iii. Mary Polly RADER.
iv. Nancy RADER.
v. William Henry RADER was born 29 JUL 1804 in VA., and died 6 JUL 1898 in Jackson Co.,KY. He married Susan WOODS. She was born 9 FEB 1807, and died 15 JUN 1882 in Jackson Co.,KY.
vi. John William SR.RADER was born 26 MAR 1810 in VA., and died 24 DEC 1887 in Egypt, KY Jackson Co., KY. He married Jane Jennie CASTEEL, 26 SEP 1839 in Chinquapin Rough (Annville) Jackson, Co., KY. She was born 13 FEB 1812 in Clay Co., KY, and died 13 DEC 1885 in Egypt, KY Jackson Co., KY.


Generation 5

(18). Robert WALTERS.


(19). JANE?.

Child of JANE? and Robert WALTERS is:(9.) i. Jane WALTERS was born 1778, and died 27 AUG 1855 in Owsley Co.,KY. She married Henry Sr. RADER. He was born ABT. 1774 in VA or Germany, and died 1843 in Jackson Co.,KY.

From family tree of CHARLOTTE RAIDER. Copyright © 1998-2007,


www.cyndislist.com--Notes on how to find your ancestor's listing--

Finding Your Cherokee Ancestor
I. Did your ancestor live in Oklahoma between 1893 and 1906?

A. If yes, are they on the Dawes Rolls? (Microfiche M-1186, roll 1)

1. If not on the Dawes Rolls, are they on the Guion Miller general index (M-1104, roll)?

a. If yes, follow references from Miller records on M-685 to Drennen or Chapman Rolls (M-685, Roll 12.) You can get a copy of someone's application by sending the application number to: National Archives (NNFJ), Washington DC 20408
b. If no, are they on the "Intruder" lists? (7RA-53 and 7RA-55)


1. If yes, they were not recognized as Cherokee citizens.
2. If no, check the 1896 Old Settler Payment Roll (T-985)


a. If yes, check Old Settler Roll of 1851 (M-685, roll 12)

1. Check History of the Cherokee Indians, by Emmet Starr

b. If no, your ancestor may be Cherokee but it is unlikely they are on any roll.

2. If yes, (they were listed on the Dawes Rolls) note their enrollment number and category and find their enrollment card on M-1186.
3. Then use the information on enrollment card to search earlier rolls such as 1896 Census (7RA-19) and 1880 Census (7RA-07)

4. Then check M-1301 for enrollment packet.

5. Is this a direct ancestor?

6. If yes, you are eligible for registration:


Contact Cherokee Nation, Tribal Registrar,
PO Box 948, Tahlequah OK 74465-0948

II. Did your ancestor reside in the North Carolina/Tennessee area?


A. If yes, is their name on any roll in CHEROKEE ROOTS by Bob Blankenship?

1. If yes, contact the Eastern Band of Cherokee Indians, PO Box 455, Cherokee NC 28719

B. If no, are they on the Guion Miller general index (m-1104, roll)?

1. If yes, follow references from Miller records on M-685 to Drennen or Chapman Rolls (M-685, Roll 12.)
2. If no, are they on the "Intruder" lists? (7RA-53 and 7RA-55)


a. If yes, they were not recognized as Cherokee citizens.
b. If no, check the 1896 Old Settler Payment Roll (T-985)


1. If yes, check Old Settler Roll of 1851 (M-685, roll 12)

a. Check History of the Cherokee Indians, by Emmet Starr

2. If no, your ancestor may be Cherokee but it is unlikely they are on any roll.

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2007-10-16 02:20:56 · answer #4 · answered by jan51601 7 · 1 1

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