The crux of what I'm trying to say is this:
Since time began, there has been more suffering than love.
I.e.,
In Humans: natural disasters, wars, famine, illness and injury, torture, genocide, rape, discrimination, slavery, disability, emotional issues, pain, hatred, fear.
In the animal kingdom: brutalilty in the food chain (especially in juviniles), animal testing, domestication (unnatural and stressful), pain, fear.
Other worldly: Hell; the most intense suffering concievable.
It is not then entirely irrational for me to think that God favours suffering over love?
2007-10-15 02:51:19 · 17 answers · asked by Golgi Apparatus 6 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
Notes:
I am an Atheist.
Regardless of whether or not man sinned and made the World a place of suffering, does not God have any responsibility for that? If I have ('created') a child, I would look after it - it's my RESPONSABILITY.
2007-10-15 02:58:33 · update #1
if i were a parent and my child misbehaved would i make their life a misery in the future? would i refuse them happiness or security? no i wouldn't. why should my child obey everything i say? i might be wrong! can they not have a mind of their own?
people might do 'nice' things in the name of god, but think of the many more cruel things people have done in the name of god. the crusades are just one that spring to mind.
either god doesn't exist and bad things happen because thats the way the world works and our perceptions are subjective, making that bad thing happening to me out weight the fantastic things going on in the world.
or, it could be, that the bad things that happen to people because they deserve it. i could never accept that argument.
2007-10-15 03:09:56 · answer #1 · answered by ombomstiggywoggles 3 · 1⤊ 0⤋
No,
Suffering is the result of human sin. The world is not the way that God created it and because of that, all are vulnerable to the affects of sin in the world. Why does one person suffer and another does not? Why do catastrophes happen to some and no others? It is because sin is in the world. But there will come a day when the Lord will return and cleanse this world of all sin and all suffering.
"And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away" (Rev. 21:4).
2007-10-15 02:54:48 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 1⤋
I say this as a Daoist/Buddhist.
As Gautama taught, the source of suffering is not external.
Its internal. Life is suffering - suffering comes from desire.
So i make common cause with some of the Abrahamic faiths and practitioners of Psychology/Psychiatry on this - God(s) or No God(s) - that is irrelevant.
Suffering is _Our_ Responsiblity.
2007-10-15 03:06:51 · answer #3 · answered by D.Chen 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Suffering produces perseverance. The Lord God said that the devil would sift Simon Peter like wheat. He warned Peter in the night before his Crucifixion that three time Peter would deny he knew Jesus. Three times he would curse Jesus Christ denying his exsistance as his friend and master. Jesus didn't say than I know that the Devil will do this sifting, he will cause you to deny me and I will stop him. Know he allowed the Devil to do this and before he allowed this he told Peter you will be strengthened for this. You will come out of this suffering stronger and more dependent upon me the Lord Jesus Christ. Unlike Judas who was sifted as wheat by the Devil, instead of turning to Jesus for forgiveness after he betrayed him he gave into the Devil, the Devil won through his sifting and Judas's betrayal of Jesus as a result Judas committed suicide. Instead of being strenghened by this sifting and suffering he was weakened and beaten. God doesn't favor suffering although if we lean on him during a horrible "sifting" we will come out of stronger.
2007-10-15 03:08:21 · answer #4 · answered by fire_side_2003 5 · 1⤊ 0⤋
It's completely irrational of you to think this way. God is love and he would never want humans to suffer. God doesn't hurt humans, humans hurt humans. We bring on ourselves what occurs. Everything that occurs to us is not God's doing, its what our first parents Adam and Eve brought onto us. So thinking that God is responsible for our bad coming is ludicrous....
2007-10-15 02:58:12 · answer #5 · answered by CATFALLINGS 2 · 0⤊ 1⤋
R u serious? U think God wishes pain on us? God loves us. God loves everyone. ANd even if u r critisizing him right now, he still loves u. God doesnt wish pain on us. He wants good to come from us.He wants us to make a difference. Have u no faith?
2007-10-15 02:56:39 · answer #6 · answered by anonymoushelper(: 3 · 0⤊ 1⤋
you seem to miss the point. God is there to help us overcome the suffering. Suffering is a natural part of our fallen state. There needs to be opposition in all things.
2007-10-15 02:55:07 · answer #7 · answered by Avatar_defender_of_the_light 6 · 1⤊ 1⤋
While I might see where you're coming from, your vision is only one-sided, and doesn't take into account the comfort and solace that believing brings to many, many people.
You can't deny all the good works people do in the name of their Lord.
2007-10-15 02:57:42 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 1⤋
Sin enterered into the world since man's fall. But God made a way out, through faith in Jesus Christ.
2007-10-15 02:54:12 · answer #9 · answered by Rudy P 2 · 1⤊ 2⤋
It is also to say that you can only know what you love the most when you finally miss it. It is the pain in life that makes us appreciate the joys.
2007-10-15 02:53:42 · answer #10 · answered by Diane A 5 · 1⤊ 1⤋