"After they killed of the leaders of the First Church of Christ"
Catholics were the first leaders, we came From Jesus
2007-10-15 02:53:48
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answered by TigerLily 4
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The Bishops cannot be successors to the Apostles because only an Apostle can succeed Apostles.
If the Bishops are the successors. where is the revelation? Why do they not reveal more scripture? Why do they not speak unified the word of God?
How can Peter have been the Bishop of Rome and Ordained another Bishop for Rome while he still lived? and if that is the pattern why doesnt the current Pope ordain his successor before his death as Peter did?
The Apostles were killed. Revelation was lost. The ordinances were changed. As was prophecied the Body of Christ suffered and died. But all is not lost because like our Savior the Church has been restored to life. The Body of christ has risen from the grave in glory. And holds the keys to the redemption of the living and the dead.
2007-10-15 03:04:18
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answered by Avatar_defender_of_the_light 6
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Apostolic succession is not a Biblical concept, but comes about nearly a century after the death of the last apostles.
1. The "unbroken chain" of Popes is historically incorrect; the first universal Pope was not until 606 AD; the first 20 people on the list of Popes never used the word. Their Papalhood was an after-the-fact matter.....
2. Apostlic succession is not a Biblical doctrine. The one apostle whose place was taken (Judas) was because of a prohpesy to that effect; you will note that at the death of the apostle James (Acts 13) there is no replacement for his apostleship. Consider the common sense truth: If there were apostleship succession, there would be 12, not one, Popes. I believe the Mormon church claims 12 Apostles
3. God states that His authority is passed on through the Word of God. Consider Peter's words himself in II Peter 1:20-21 "knowing this first, that no prophecy of Scripture is of any private interpretation, for prophecy never came by the will of man, but holy men of God spoke as they were moved by the Holy Spirit." Here Peter clearly says it was not the will of men (the Apostles) that God's authority was made clear, but by Scripture.
2007-10-15 02:56:58
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answered by Cuchulain 6
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The laying on of hands is not to forgive sins. Christ did not give anyone on earth the authority to forgive sins. Christ alone can do this. As most well know, the Catholic leaders and Eastern Orthodox leaders manipulated this "ability" back in the medieval days, but since have abandoned this practice.
Laying on of hands, as done by Peter and Paul was to help receive the gift of speaking in tongues as told by Peter in Acts 2:38 and done by Paul and Peter many times throughout the New Testament.
In answer to your question: No, they have not lost the apostolic atonement. They were never given the power in the first place.
2007-10-15 02:52:19
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answered by tcjstn 4
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No one has lost the blessings of apostolic atonement, least of all the Protestant Church (I used to be catholic, then a protestant, presently an agnostic). Better read up on your Bible again, yes the King James version, and understand it. Not just the line and verse but the whole passage.
Any Tom, Dick and Harry can interpret a line or part of a verse from the Bible and give it a totally different meaning. Go over the link below and you'll understand what I mean. Besides, from what you say, does that mean that God does not forgive sins anymore? I rest my case.
2007-10-15 02:55:45
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answered by sheikhlaodum 3
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The Apostles NEVER fogave sins. That is soley under the authority of God through Christ. The Apostles, through faith, performed many miracles, including healing, but NEVER forgiveness of sins. Neither they, nor we, have been given the resposibility or authority to judge and forgive. Show me the Scripture verbatim that without question proves that the Apostles, or even just one of them, how about anyone except for God and Jesus (Who is God), who ever forgave someone's sins.
.....waiting....
That's right...there is none.
What you refer to must simply be a horrible tradition in the Catholic Church. This is but one more reason that many people consider Catholicism a cult; i.e. they add to the Bible things that are not there, like purgatory or works for salvation or "apostelic atonement."
The laying of hands on a person, however, is biblical, when the church leaders, like elders, do for healing. This must be done in accordance to God's will, and should only be done, therefore, after prayer, and a heart moved to do so.
2007-10-15 02:53:27
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answered by BowtiePasta 6
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Because Christ died for our sins so we could be saved we have the right to pray directly to GOD through his son Jesus for our forgiveness.Therefore the Pope is out of business.
2007-10-15 02:53:14
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answered by rjm 4
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The Roman Church never had it!
After they killed of the leaders of the First Church of Christ
All man-made doctrines
2007-10-15 02:50:06
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answered by Anonymous
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