This question has been asked before, but I just want to get the input of the current regulars on R&S.
2007-10-14
16:57:19
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Janet..lol...and you are right.
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Underground man...yep.
Hahaha, Daisy. I'm sure He did.
Ron, so you ignoring Luke 7:34, and Matthew 26:29, where Jesus admits He drinks wine (and in your precious KJV, no less)? You should read some of the answers here about wine being culturally acceptable, and safer than the water of that time. Fundies, Baptists, whathaveyou, never take the culture or history into account when trying to discern the meaning of scripture. As for OT scripture, how about Proverbs 31:4-7 (King James Version)
4It is not for kings, O Lemuel, it is not for kings to drink wine; nor for princes strong drink:
5Lest they drink, and forget the law, and pervert the judgment of any of the afflicted.
6Give strong drink unto him that is ready to perish, and wine unto those that be of heavy hearts.
7Let him drink, and forget his poverty, and remember his misery no more.
This not only indicates that wine was acceptable, it also indicates it was intoxicating.
2007-10-15
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update #1
Jesus Christ said: “John came neither eating nor drinking, yet people say, ‘He has a demon’; the Son of man did come eating and drinking, still people say, ‘Look! A man gluttonous and given to drinking wine.’” Even though those people were mature physically, Jesus said that they acted like “young children”—anything but mature. Thus, he added: “All the same, wisdom is proved righteous by its works.”Matthew 11:16-19.
So the answer is Yes.
2007-10-14 17:02:31
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answered by conundrum 7
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Jesus changed water into wine. It even seems that Jesus drank wine on occasion (John 2:1-11; Matthew 26:29). In New Testament times, the water was not very clean. Without modern sanitation efforts, the water was often filled with bacteria, viruses, and all kinds of contaminants. The same is true in many third-world countries today. As a result, people often drank wine (or grape juice) because it was far less likely to be contaminated. In 1 Timothy 5:23, Paul was instructing Timothy to stop drinking the water (which was probably causing his stomach problems) and instead drink wine. In that day, wine was fermented (containing alcohol), but necessarily not to the degree it is today. It is incorrect to say that it was grape juice, but it is also incorrect to say that it was the same thing as the wine commonly used today.
2007-10-15 00:04:10
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answered by Freedom 7
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Yes. Very often. Wine is mentioned 521 times in the Bible.
Matthew 11:19; Luke 7:34. - Jesus drank wine and was called a winebiber or tippler:
John 2: 3-10. - Jesus turned water into wine at the marriage at Cana.
2007-10-14 23:58:53
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answered by Justsyd 7
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It is assumed by a great many that He did. Let’s examine this for a moment. Do you know how much wine Jesus made during His first miracle at the wedding feast of Cana? He made 6 firkins, or about 150 gallons. Now, of course, the New International Version (NIV), which never changes anything of significance (yea, right), says by implication that Jesus did this “after the GUESTS had too much to drink”. You do understand that Jesus was a GUEST don't you??? So, let me understand this correctly, Jesus was at a party where the guests were drinking to excess, Jesus was one of the guests, and He supplied a few extra kegs to liven things up a bit after they had already drank to excess. Is that your Jesus?
Jesus Sinned?
The King James Bible (KJB) rendering which states they had "well drunken" (had plenty to drink) is the correct one. The New American Standard Version and other literal modern versions agree with the KJB here, leaving the NIV alone in its radically liberal paraphrase. Even if you take the rendering in the KJB, which I do, you have to conclude the guests had drank their fill of wine. If this wine was alcoholic then it is likely that they would not be ready for another 150 gallons of alcoholic wine. Think about it. How many glass of wine would this be? If you figure 4 ounces to a glass, 128 ounces to a gallon, you get 32 glasses of wine per gallon and a grand total of 4,800 glasses of wine. Now I do not know how many people were at this feast, but surely 500 would be a large number for such an event at this time. If this wine was alcoholic then Jesus did cause all who were there to drink to excess. This is clearly a sin in the Old Testament. Not only would His excessive drinking have been a sin, but causing others to do so is also a sin. Every Jew present at this wedding, and they were undoubtedly all Jews, would have known Him to be a sinner because of this verse, and many others:
Habakkuk 2:15 Woe unto him that giveth his neighbour drink, that puttest thy bottle to him, and makest him drunken also,.......
Now my liberal (apostate) friends are quick to assert that Jesus drank alcoholic wine, as a tea totaler of course, but are often shocked by the implication this has in John 2. Some have suggested that Jesus didn't drink any, and that the guests did not have to drink all that he made. These are interesting thoughts, but I think it is clear from context that the guests had drank their fill and were now given a great deal more to drink. I think it is also abundantly clear from context this was not alcoholic wine.
2007-10-15 00:02:09
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answered by Anonymous
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Yes, but I am told that it was different than what we drink today. Not intoxicating or at least less so. Like a juice or a slightly fermented drink. Ever leave some juice in your fridge a little too long and it tasted slightly tangy? I know that others got drunk so I am sure that there was more heavily fermented wine, too, or at least they drank a lot of it to get that way.
I've never heard any stories of Jesus getting tipsy and he spoke out about getting drunk so I think it's safe to say that whatever he drank was not going to make him a hypocrite.
2007-10-15 00:16:29
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answered by Amber 6
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He lived in the ancient Mediterranean. Everybody drank wine there. It was a staple, like bread.
Jesus was a devout Jew. As such he celebrated the Passover each year. And as such, he drank wine. Also, do people imagine that Jesus met together for the last time with his disciples at a meal with wine, where wine was an important element mentioned and that he didn't drink any wine?
Modern Christians with their Puritanical ideas about Jesus and drink are sorely mistaken.
2007-10-15 00:00:05
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answered by Underground Man 6
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John 4:46 So Jesus came again into Cana of Galilee, where he made the water wine. And there was a certain nobleman, whose son was sick at Capernaum.
I've never read in the Bible where Jesus drank wine. He turned water into wine.
http://bibleresources.bible.com/keywordsearchresults.php?keyword=jesus+wine&multiplemethod=all&version1=9&numpageresults=25&sortorder=bookorder
I hope this helps, best wishes!
;-)
2007-10-14 23:59:13
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answered by claimsadjuster 2
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I've seen this question as well and I always wondered why anyone would think He turned water into Grape Juice. They didn't even HAVE Grape Juice 2000 years ago, wine was a well accepted (and still is) table drink in the Mediterranean area. So YES, YES, YES, He drank wine. And He always had some mighty fine wine, singin',
Joy to the world
All the boys & girls
Joy to the fishes in the deep blue sea
Joy to you and me
2007-10-15 00:02:56
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answered by Dave 5
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Yes, it says He did in the Bible. I know it specifically talks about it during His last supper with the Apostles. He blesses the wine, drinks and passes it around. Wine is just another thing to drink, though, I don't remember any mention of Him getting drunk or anything.
2007-10-15 00:03:41
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answered by bainaashanti 6
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Yes, He did, as did everyone else of that time and place. It was the ordinary drink that everyone had with meals. He also provided wine for the couple at the wedding feast.
2007-10-15 00:00:39
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answered by PaulCyp 7
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