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2007-10-14 16:12:25 · 30 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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The Bible clearly teaches that Jesus is God (cf. John 8:58, 10:38, 14:10; Col. 2:9). It also clearly teaches that the Holy Spirit is God (cf. Acts 5:3–4, 28:25–28; 1 Cor. 2:10–13). Everyone agrees the Father is God. Yet there is only one God (Mark 12:29, 1 Cor. 8:4–6, Jas. 2:19).

Jesus tells his apostles to baptize "in the name [notice, singular, not plural] of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit" (Matt. 28:19). This is a proof-text: three distinct Persons united in the one divine name. In 2 Corinthians 13:14, Paul writes, "The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ and the love of God and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit be with you all." We see this same unity of divine Persons in 1 Corinthians 12:4–11, Ephesians 4:4–6, and 1 Peter 1:2–3.

2007-10-14 16:17:42 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 4 2

Tertullian, one of the early church fathers, coined the term "Trinity." The word actually means "three-ness." Tertullian was an ardent supporter of orthodoxy in the church, and was one of the greatest defenders of the historic Christian faith.

Although the term "Trinity" is not found in the Scriptures, the doctrine is clearly displayed. There are many times where Jesus said of Himself that He was God. He applied the name of God, "I AM," to Himself in several passages. Here's a few examples: Matthew 14:27, Mark 6:50, Mark 13:6, Luke 21:8, John 4:26, John 6:20, John 8:24, 28, 58, and John 13:19. (Some of these examples aren't translated well into English, and some Bible use "It is I," or I am He," instead of the literal I am.) There are several others I have not listed. Besides this, Jesus said that He & the Father were one (John 10:30). This describes a unity, even though there are two.

The Trinity has an underlying appearance in the Old Testament as well. In Genesis, we see during creation that God said, "Let us make man in our image." and also when man sinned, God said, "...man has become as one of us, to know good and evil..." Who was He speaking to? The other persons of the Trinity. We also see that the Spirit of God hovered over the waters in the beginning, and in John 1:1-3, it clearly states that Jesus (the Word) made everything.

Another angle to pursue is the various Scriptures that demonstrate that God's attributes are present in Jesus as well as the Holy Spirit. For example, the Father is eternal (Psalm 90:2), and so is the Son (John 1:2), and so is the Holy Spirit (Hebrews 9:14). Another shared attribute is their holiness. Only God is truly holy. The Father is holy (Revelation 15:4), so is the Son (Acts 3:14), and so is the Spirit (Acts 1:8).

An ancient diagram of the Trinity can be helpful in getting your hands around the doctrine, and can be found at the link in the SOURCE list.

The Trinitarian doctrine requires much more depth of discussion than can occur here. It is important to know that we only have to believe, not necessarily understand, the Trinitarian nature of God. It is a bedrock doctrine of the Christian church. Anything else is heresy.

2007-10-14 23:22:22 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 2 2

Well it is the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Three in one. It is like well me for example. I am a grandson, student, and brother. Though I am the same person I have three different identities. I have three very different functions in each one of the titles. I would not act or do the same things I would as a brother, when I am in class. I would not be act or be the same in the role of grandson as I would be as a student. So you see how someone can be three very distinctive things and still be the same person. Well we believe that God is God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit. He is the same he just has 3 different roles he fulfils and depending upon His role depends upon how he will act and gather information. The Bible makes it a little clearer in Acts 5: 3,4. The way Peter uses God and the Holy Spirit are interchangeable. This shows that they are one and the same. He talks about how Ananias lied to the Holy Spirit, then asks why he lied to God? He did not say why to the Holy Spirit AND to God. Meaning that God and the Holy Spirit are one and the same. The Bible also talks about God being Lord, and Christ being the Lord. So that shows that they are one and the same, yet different. So you have God in three beings. Each one is its own and has its own role and title, yet all three are the same being.

2007-10-15 00:03:41 · answer #3 · answered by Prof. Dave 7 · 0 0

The doctrine of the trinity is taught in the Bible. Man, in an effort to describe the Godhead, chose the word trinity, but just because man gave the Godhead that name or description doesn't mean the doctrine doesn't exist or is false. The Bible clearly teaches that the Godhead consists of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit.

Questions like yours are usually asked by people who are in or thinking about joining one of the monotheistic cults, such as the UPCI or Assemblies of the Lord Jesus Christ or Apostolic Church. Be wary of them. They talk a lot and sound reasonable in the beginning, but they are ignorant and will mislead you from the gospel. One of their arguments they use to confuse people and lead them away from the Lord is that the word the trinity isn't in the Bible. Neither is the word Jennifer, so does that mean I don't exist?

I love the website letusreason.org. They have great information, articles and testimonies there. I recommend it for answers to all kinds of questions.

2007-10-14 23:23:44 · answer #4 · answered by No Shortage 7 · 1 2

From what I've learned from the History channel and other written sources, it's like this: Jesus' followers seemed to think that Jesus was special in some way but they weren't sure exactly how and it seems that Jesus himself never exactly said how either. He refers to God as "father" (which made some people think he was the son of God) but a lot of Jews back then referred to God as father, as in the way that everyone is God's children. Jesus never claimed to be God, either. Apparently a lot of his followers expected something special to happen once Jesus died, like heaven on earth would suddenly show up. But he died and nothing happened. (Supposedly some people claimed to witness him resurrected, but that's not proven by a long shot). So anyways, the followers of Jesus started to try to figure out ways in which maybe Jesus' talk had some kind of deeper meaning than simply having heaven on earth come around. So they came up with the idea that he died for everyone's sins so that we could have heaven in the after life. Hundreds of years later, there was all sorts of various branches of christian churches that all followed and taught different things about Jesus. Some claimed that he was the son of God. Others claimed that he was just a human prophet with no divinity at all. Other claimed that he was God himself. Eventually the churches had a meeting to decide which way they should all agree to say it was. At this meeting, they decided to say that Jesus was, in fact, God himself. Then that begged the question of how can Jesus be God, but also have prayed to God and how could he have been a man on earth but also have been God in heaven the whole time? So Christians began to make up the idea of the trinity, claiming that God is really three parts. And that teaching has been passed down for the past 1,500 years or more.

2007-10-14 23:28:31 · answer #5 · answered by egn18s 5 · 1 1

Well one might ask that question about "bible" - if the word "bible" isn't in the bible, can the bible be taken seriously?

And the answer is yes, of course it can. And just as the word "bible" is not in the bible, all the while there actually being a bible, so can the trinity be in the bible, without the word "trinity" having to appear.

"Go, therefore, and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the holy Spirit..." Matthew 28:19

2007-10-14 23:21:52 · answer #6 · answered by evolver 6 · 1 3

because it is just what people beileve but it is not true for most religons. I don't personally believe in that because how can god be the father ,holy spirt ,and son? because by calling him the son and father your giving him human attributes. god is a greater force far from humans. humans are meant to be a creation of god how the creation be just like the creator. that would also mean god has a family and goes to the bathroom. he does not and will not. like for instance if we made a robot the robot can not be as good as the creator that made it . and we are not on the equal level of god. a and millons of others believe that god is a greater force and is far from the human imagination and greater than the human brain could fathom. so my friend i am not asking you to convert i am only informing you to expand your mind and see the truth of islam and the knowlege. to answer your question trinity doesn't make sense.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uF4hoU9HRs

2007-10-14 23:27:40 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

John 1:1 and 1:14
First Timothy 3:16
Remember when the Holy Spirit descended like a dove on Christ when he was baptized by John the baptist? Where was the Holy spirit before this time, was he mentioned in the old testament? Like as the Spirit of God? Have fun doing research on this one...

2007-10-14 23:30:49 · answer #8 · answered by judy_derr38565 6 · 0 2

It's an axiom. By going through the Bible you can find places where God reveals Himself. By those verses, you can extract or boil down what God have revealed Himself as being.

These are some of the verses where I found God was doing that:


God tells angels to worship Him:
6 And again, when God brings his firstborn into the world, he says,
"Let all God's angels worship him." (Hebrews 1 & Psalm 45)

God calls Jesus God:
8 But about the Son he says,
"Your throne, O God, will last for ever and ever,
and righteousness will be the scepter of your kingdom.
9You have loved righteousness and hated wickedness;
therefore God, your God, has set you above your companions
by anointing you with the oil of joy."
(Hebrews 1 & Psalm 45)

Jesus says that God is Spirit:
24 God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in spirit and in truth." (John 4)

Jesus calls God the Father:
John 20:17
Jesus said, "Do not hold on to me, for I have not yet returned to the Father. Go instead to my brothers and tell them, 'I am returning to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.' "

Jesus says that the Father and him are one:
30 "I and the Father are one."

Jesus calls himself 'from everlasting to everlasting ':
58"I tell you the truth," Jesus answered, "before Abraham was born, I am!" (John 8)

Jesus is in Daniel 7 as the Most High, having a separate set of independent actions from the Ancient of Days:
13 "In my vision at night I looked, and there before me was one like a son of man, coming with the clouds of heaven. He approached the Ancient of Days and was led into his presence. 14 He was given authority, glory and sovereign power; all peoples, nations and men of every language worshiped him. His dominion is an everlasting dominion that will not pass away, and his kingdom is one that will never be destroyed.

21 As I watched, this horn was waging war against the saints and defeating them, 22 until the Ancient of Days came and pronounced judgment in favor of the saints of the Most High, and the time came when they possessed the kingdom.

2007-10-14 23:28:44 · answer #9 · answered by Christian Sinner 7 · 2 1

If the early Christians never have a bible and never believed in the bible, then why would we believe in it?

The early Christians only believed in the Church teachings not the bible.

Which did Christ create? He built a Church. He didn't wrote the bible.

We only believed in the bible because the Church says.

2007-10-15 01:23:26 · answer #10 · answered by jerriel 4 · 0 2

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