Please help me dog breeders!? I need advice ASAP!?

Question

I live on a farm out in the country. I have two rat terriors dogs. Yesterday (Oct 13), I was gone to the Twin Cities, and got home at about late afternoon. While I was gone, my dogs had mated, I could tell when I looked at my female dog Jackie. The problem is that Jackie is only 9 months and 5 days old. What should I do? She is a long and skinny dog. No should I be giving her a more protein filled dog food? Also, DON'T TELL ME TO SPAY OR NEUTER MY DOGS! Because I'm not going to! Just give me some advice on my situation. I never intended for this to happen, so don't say I'm a horrible owner.

Also, is there a possibility that she isn't pregnant, because she wasn't in heat. Which I hear happens when females are about a year old. What are some ways you can tell if she is pregnant?

My dogs are purebreds thank you very much, and we would of wanted puppies later in their life. But I didn't think somthing like this would happen so soon.

Answer 1

Just feed her a high quality food, as much as she wants. Do get good vet care for her. Because she is young and small, be sure to have her x-rayed in about 7-8 weeks to make sure she can pass these puppies.

If you would rather wait, a quick trip to the vet can abort this litter with a hormone shot. Chances are, she will do fine. It's not the best choice to breed first heat cycle, but she will probably be just fine. Do take her to the vet for prenatal care though if you choose to have this litter.

Good Luck.

Answer 2

Yes, bad situation. It is possible that she didn't get pregnant. If she is not ovulating or within 72 hours of ovulating it's a possibility. Normally a female won't hold for a male unless the is receptive though. Wait about 1 month. Take her in for an ultrasound. That is really the only way you will know for sure if she is actually pregnant. Don't do an Xray on this dog until 1 week before the pups are due. The radiation will harm the puppies. Don't change her diet yet, it's too soon. I would however make sure she maintains a very healthy weight. Speak to your vet, or a reputable breeder for all the info you need. Please don't just take advice from a forum. It sounds like you need a mentor. They will tell you exactly what to feed and when to change to a food more appropriate for a pregnant and lactating dog. Also, when she gets near whelping time, make sure you have milk replacer for puppies and bottles. Her being so young and immature she may not be the best mom. Good luck!

Answer 3

You asked a similar question yesterday, also claiming that you had no intention of breeding. Why did you leave your dogs together to mate if you didn't want puppies?
You are an irresponsible owner who now has to suffer the consequences of what you have allowed to happen. And yes, it is entirely your fault, so grow up and admit it.
You say you don't want to spay and neuter, so be prepared for the worst here, like losing mom or the puppies because your dog is way too young to have puppies.
You are getting the best advice on this situation from breeders who know exactly what the risks are for your dog, but you refuse to listen, and your poor dog is the one who will suffer for your ignorance and inability to admit when you are wrong.

If you love your dog at all, you will take her to the vet and get her spayed long before any possibility of puppies. If not, well, then you know what kind of dog owner you are, whether you admit it or not.

I wish your dogs the best of luck. They will need it.

Answer 4

Your not a horrible owner, for one. First the problem you need to be taken care of. This point there is nothing needs to be done now with her diet. As the pregnancy continues its best to give her a diet that is well rounded, like Pedigree or even better. The meals as the pregnancy continues will have to be small frequent feedings. If you don't now you might think of a can of food with dry on the side with of course fresh water all the time. I will say that homes for animals are very few, check the APL if you don't believe me. Fixing especially the male has alot of good reasons that it should be done. The reason is testicle cancer that is not treatable. If your dog gets it, he dies, in a way that's not that pretty. My German Shepard died of that and it was because it was done too late,and we rescued him from a abusive situation. Try to understand why fixing your animals is so bad for you. This is the beginning, one female dog will have many, many puppies, what then. Your answer has been given to you. Please reconsider about fixing your animal for their sakes and the puppies that might not find a good home.PS It will happen again and again.. if you don't take action.

Answer 5

I have been a breeder for 15 years, worked at a vet for 4, and have a degree in Biology. Dogs do not mate if they aren't in heat.You may not be able to tell if she is in heat. Some show more evidence than others, and she may be the type that doesn't really have many visible signs to the naked eye. If she is a large dog, she will come into heat about twice a year, the first time normally between 6-9 months old. While ideally, you should try and wait until the dog is 2 to breed (for purebreds), it IS NOT going to kill the dog to have puppies (unless she is a chihuahua and bred by a German shepherd).

You might want to look into seperate kennels for your dogs, and keep one locked up while you are away from the house, or both locked up, whichever your preference. If you aren't wanting puppies, separation is necessary.

I also fail to understand your aversion to spaying or neutering. Are they purebreds? Are you planning on breeding in the future? If they aren't purebreds, it is actually healthier to spay them (even if they are purebreds) then to leave them intact, with no puppies planned. Animals are made to have babies, and when you deprive them of that, it floods their bodies with hormones possibly causing uterine and/or ovarian cancer later in life. We had a dog die of breast cancer. Now, once our dogs are past "puppy bearing" years, we spay them to keep them healthy.

If they are not purebreds, it would be better to spay them. That is not being cruel, and I don't think you a horrible owner. Maybe a little irresponsible, but that can be taken of, by seperating the dogs while you are not in attendance.

Also, you can take the dog to the vet right away and ask for a shot of "mis-mate". It prevents the dog from getting pregnant. We have done that in the past, when the wrong male mated with our female.

Hope this advice helps.

ETA: Oh, to answer your question about the dog food. If she is pregnant than she does need additional protein through the pregnancy and while nursing. Mark 60 days off on your calendar, and try to be around if and when she gives birth, she might need your help. Young, first time moms aren't necessarily good moms, and often may not even open the sacs, leaving the puppies to suffocate. Keep an eye out for her laying on the puppies. A box, built with a pig rail would be good to enable the puppies a place to lay without getting squashed. Feel free to email me any questions, I'd be glad to help.

ANOTHER EDIT: I see that your dogs are purebred. Please try and determine your reasonings for breeding. If to better the breed (good hips, temper, etc.,) great, if it is just to make money, please reconsider. I totally understand not spaying a purebred animal, with papers. These animals are expensive and spaying is not cost effective in this case. Please invest in kennels, since they are small, they should be easier to confine then my Rotties. Yikes, the expense in such large kennels!

You best bet may be to talk to your vet, as I don't agree with several posters on the age being a definite problem, or that it isn't necessary to feed more protein at this stage, because I believe it is. Actually, when you plan to breed, you start feeding better prior to their cycle. Just like in woman, you take folic acid, etc., prior to conceiving, or you should......dogs require optimum nutrition for optimum health. Please contact me privately, I'd be glad to help, out of the public eye.

Answer 6

You could tell just by looking at her?? WOW. you are good..

Anyhow.. Let me tell you about my idiot neighbour.. They bred their young female.. She went into labour, bit she did not dilate at all.. She was close to death before they finally called us..They had to take her in for an emergency c-section.. $1000.. Then to top that off, she wouldn't care for them, or feed them or anything else... Then cause she was biting at them all the time, cause she was way to young mentally and physically, they put her outside on a chain.. Then I had to sit here and listen to momma dog SCREAMING for her kids, that she didn't really want, but instinct told her she should want them.. Anyhow they got sick and tired of feeding and cleaning up after these puppies.. The mom didn't help at all, they had spent all this money on this ridiculous litter.. And they dumped them all at 5 weeks of age.. You want to know what.. They didn't even make their money back.. Their female is now a screwball.. She had puppies didn't want them, but freaked when they all left.. Now they can't trust her around their little kid, and she still barks pretty close to 24 hours a day..

My neighbour is stupid.. Please don't do the same thing they did and produce a screwball litter and mess up your little rat terrier cause you want to see cutesy wutesy puppies.. The shelter is full of those crappy puppies that aren't bred properly.. You aren't doing your dog justice, and you are going to try and sell puppies to people, knowing that they are inferior quality puppies.. Got a conscience??

Edit: if she wasn't in heat she cannot be pregnant.

Answer 7

If she wasn't in heat then she didn't mate.Dogs only mate when the female is in heat and receptive to the male.

As for spay/neuter you really need to consider it for the health of your dogs. As a long time vet tech I have seen way too many dogs die needlessly or have to undergo painful treatments becasue of pyometria, mammary cancer, prostrate issues, anal fistulas/tumors, etc.

Being purebred means absolutely nothing..not every purebred dog should be bred matter of fact 90% of those that are bred should not be. Before breeding they must have and pass genetic health tests..OFA/PennHip, CRF/PRA, Thyroid, Brucellosis test, etc. They also need impeccible pedigrees, to be shown or evaluated to make sure they meet breed standard.. there is so very much to breeding if done responsibly.

******it can very well kill your dog to breed it under age.It can also cause a lot of other problems..low/no milk production, affect growth in the mother, low bithweight pups, still born pups, whelping difficulties, complications during pregnancy,etc...something I have dealt with at the hospital on many, many occassions******

Answer 8

You obviously do not know anything about breeding dogs, just by the questions you ask. Take the advice you have been given here. Either be responsible and keep the dogs apart when she goes into heat or spay and neuter them both. If he is trying to breed her and she is not in heat that is cruel and it is your responsibility to keep them apart all the time.

Leave breeding to the professionals who breed puppies for good health and temperments. And SPAY AND NEUTER YOUR DOGS! If they are pets, they will be happier and healthier that way. Just ask your vet.

Answer 9

y wouldnt u spay and neuter ur dog. obvioulsy ur freaking because something happened. take ur dogs to the vet and see if she is pregnant (which i highly doubt. unless she was in heat). if she is then u can either abort the litter or u can have it and hope she makes it through ok. and then honestly i would have her spayed and the male neutered. u probably dont know what to do if they get pregnant. it is bad to have unfixed dogs together. a responsible owner wouldnt have had those two dogs together. expecially if the female was in heat. so if she is pregnant have the pups but then get ur dogs neutered

EDIT: if she wasnt in heat than most likely she isnt pregnant

Answer 10

I always think it's curious when posters ask for advice but are unwilling to listen to the obvious.

Here are the facts: If she is pregnant, and you are determined to allow her to carry out the pregnancy, you need to get her to the vet. She will require pre-natal care. There is nothing cheap about breeding dogs correctly, so get ready to pay for your neglect.

You may not be a horrible owner, but you're irresponsible, and have told us that you do not plan on making the necessary changes to ensure that his never happens again.

And here's one more fact: Unaltered pets live shorter lives than those that are spayed/neutered. Not only are you not watching out for their best interest, you are inviting a host of health problems. Ask any Veterinarian and they will agree.

Answer 11

How do you "know" that your dogs mated? How do you know that she idn't in heat?

If you won't spay or neuter - what do you want us to tell you to do??

I suppose you could do this:

1.) start saving up money - maybe 2000.00 for a c-section - she might need that
2.) take her to the vet to determine if she really is pregnant
3.) have the vet tell you how many pups there are
4.) create a contract before you find homes. The contract should state that if - for any reason at any time the owner doesn't want/can't take care of the dog that it must be returned to you
5.) The contract should also require that the pups be spayed and neutered
6.) the contract should also have a 2-year health guarantee - if something happens healthwise (genetics) from the litter you are required to either replace the pup or return their money (so don't spend all your earnings in one place!)
7.) build your whelping box
8.) get all necessary materials needed for whelping
9.) read all books you can - learn what to look for regarding when your b!tich is in trouble, when you should call the vet
10.) learn what to do to revive pups, to prevent fading puppy, how to tie off umbilical cords, what to do with the placentas/afterbirth, what to feed your b!itch during pregnancy and afterwards, how to bottle feed puppies and what you should use
11.) take 2 weeks off of work so you can stay home and be with mom and pups to ensure the safety and health of them
13.) pay for deworming all puppies and mom
14.) pay for first shots

OR - simply take her to the vet and pay 80.00 to spay her.

Hmmm - doesn't really seem like much of a choice does it??!!


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