If his name was to be Holy
(Exodus 20:7) 7 “You must not take up the name of Jehovah your God in a worthless way, for Jehovah will not leave the one unpunished who takes up his name in a worthless way.
In the KJ it says LORD, now that is a TITLE, NOT A NAME
but since he did have his name in 6800 times , don't you think he wanted us to use it,
whats the 1st thing Jesus said to pray for in the Lord's prayer?
LET YOUR NAME BE SANTIFIED ( OR HOLLOWED) means same thing.
Jesus said (John 17:6) . . .“I have made your name manifest to the men you gave me out of the world. They were yours, and you gave them to me, and they have observed your word.
so since Jesus thought it so importent shouldn't we? do you have a STRONGS CONCORDENCE ? if so look up the word LORD & see how many times it refferences Jehovah.
2007-10-13
15:12:45
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;to those of you who claim that Jehovah sholdn't be said, Why Then did he have it put in the OT 6800 times
About not being in the NT, don't you realize that the NT quotes the OT 320 times . When the apostles quoted a scripture from the ot see how it was used
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(Joel 2:32) And it must occur that everyone who calls on the name of Jehovah will get away safe; for in Mount Zion and in Jerusalem there will prove to be the escaped ones, just as Jehovah has said, and in among the survivors, whom Jehovah is calling.”
(Zephaniah 3:9) For then I shall give to peoples the change to a pure language, in order for them all to call upon the name of Jehovah, in order to serve him shoulder to shoulder.’
(Acts 2:21) And everyone who calls on the name of Jehovah will be saved.”’
2007-10-14
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You seem to be saying that in the 320 places the NT quotes from the OT, that the "quoter" quotes word for word. But that's not the case.
Isaiah 53:1 says "Who has put faith in the thing heard by us?"
Paul quotes it in Romans 10:16 and adds the word "kyrios" - "lord" - which does not appear in Isaiah 53:1. Of course the NWT changed it to "Jehovah", but neither "lord" nor "Jehovah" appears in Isaiah 53:1.
So NT writers quoting the OT didn't have to quote scriptures word for word as written in the OT.
Mommy of 1 - you are too good to be true. A JW that is honest enough to defend what is true instead of just defending your religious tradition, even when it's questionable. I was beginning to think there wasn't one on this forum.
JR
You state that the Book of Mathew as originally written in Hebrew contained YHWH. I agree that Mathew wrote his book in Hebrew. But prove to us that he used YHWH. Have you seen it? If not, has anyone else seen it? Is there some ancient writing that says that Mathew used YHWH when he wrote his book? How about some proof to back up all your theories?
2007-10-17 15:29:08
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answered by browneyedgirl 3
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I simply love this question and the very humorous reply the JW's deliver which make no connection with the query in answering it. Since the identify Jehovah NEVER was once in ANY new testomony writings nor was once it even used as a reputation for God because it was once a person made invention of the identify. I marvel why they think the sort of factor. I imply within the Hebrew the identify was once Jehovah so within the Greek the identify could be Jehovah? The identify Jesus is in Greek however his identify in Hebrew could had been Yashua and even Joshua. Jesus in no way used the identify Jehovah and consistently referred to as his Father both the Father or God the Father, why? He adopted the Law. He was once no longer a top priest but! When talking with those witness approximately the NWT and their laws, they simply hold forth those laws for the improvement of others, you do not count on them to comply with them do you? Because the do not. They make up those laws after which holiday them at will, simply to hold their doctrines intact. The NWT is probably the most bias and absolutely unsuitable translation and will have to under no circumstances be viewed a Bible of real Christians. It's a ebook in sheep's apparel however within its a wolf. Again JW's there was once in no way a brand new testamnet writing observed that has the identify Jehovah in it. So why no longer depart good ample on my own as a substitute of attempting and doing the alterations within the Bible? You have difference the meanings of a number of verses since it suits together with your doctrine. Why? Leave the Bible on my own, it is the phrase of God, it does no longer want your alterations or pressured alterations!
2016-09-05 08:18:42
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answered by ? 4
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Hi I am a Jehovah's Witness not disfellowshipped or anything however I CAN SEE how one can logically assume that God's name shouldn't be pronounced.
I personally Have read the Greek Scriptures (Matt-Rev) 3 times and have found that; except where there was a direct quote from the OT there is no mention of Jehovah's name.
Even Jesus NEVER used Jehovah's name unless he was quoting from the OT. And I'm sure you know from study of the NWT that these are places where WE have "replaced" Jehovah. Even though in the original greek text LORD OR GOD appears. So whether or not Jesus actually spoke the name JEHOVAH is unclear.
LETS TALK ABOUT THE LORDS PRAYER:
Is it not odd to you that Jesus said "let your name be santified"
Yet he himself taught us to pray "Our Father in heaven,..." NOT "Jehovah in heaven..."
In what way was God's name being Santified?
Is it by using it all the time or by treating it as HOLY.
JUST SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT.
I am a Jehovah's Witness in Good standing. But, I also know that we have to take God's Word for what it is and not ADD to it.
2007-10-15 07:05:13
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answered by Mommy of 3 5
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Translator's who succumb promoting a Christian denominations theology, do there readers, adherents and academic background's a humiliating disservice.
Evidently, this is seen with the use of the divine name which is altered over 6800 times to a unclear impersonal term. For the sake of semantics, I 'm not even going to argue about where it should or shouldn't be, what's *CLEAR* is that it was (and is *STILL*) omitted in todays abundant "earnest" translations.
Sadly, only *ONE* bible translation has done this *OBVIOUS* task, the New World Translation. (Are you kidding me! Only *ONE*)
Bias Christian individuals grossly criticize it's commitment to restore a name that is used more than any other name, because of differences in beliefs! (*Thats Pitiful*)
I thought Christians are suppose to seek Truth?
Regardless of its publishers belief system, I feel copelled to write for the sense of clarity and *HONEST* translations. Again, for a translator or religious committee to arbitrarirly ignore a *OBVIOUS* fact and then try to justify its actions with scholarly work is plain wrong.
YHVH, Yahweh or Jehovah
2007-10-18 11:30:17
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answered by YXM84 5
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Since God wants us to have a close, personal relationship with him, he made certain that his name was preserved throughout the ages, despite Satan's attempts to erase it from the Bible and confound people about the proper pronunciation. Respect and reverence for God does not mean that we can not be close to him. (James 4:8) Reverence means we hold him in high esteem, above all others. We do not give honor that properly belongs to him to anyone else. We accept his word the Bible and do not make traditions more important than his word. He revealed his name in the Bible. No tradition should make the uttering of it sacrilege.
2007-10-15 02:12:50
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answered by babydoll 7
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Many so called Christians don't want to recognize the name of the Father, which is Jehovah.
Saying YHWH never appeared in the New Testament is completely wrong.
The Book of Matthew was originally written in Hebrew, then translated into Greek. The Original Book of Matthew had the tetragrammaton (YHWH) in it. However, this was changed later and replaced with "Lord" and "God" after being translated into Greek. Its also obvious that adjustments took place because everytime Jesus or his disciples quoted the OT, they always came across tetragrammaton.. But as you can see, its subtitled with "Lord" or "God".
2007-10-13 22:45:05
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answered by VMO 4
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Well, the best way to discredit anyone is to remove His name. Always deny He even has a name or substitute another name. Very soon, people who aren't looking very hard anyway, will forget to ask.
Of course, humans get ticked off if we forget each others names. We expect when we know someone to call them by their name. We don't just call "Hey You!" Why should we expect God to be different? In the past, He was very jealous of His name.
2007-10-13 15:24:02
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answered by grnlow 7
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It's not "Jehovah" either. This is a Church misinterpretation of how to pronounce the Tetragrammaton, God's holiest name, YHVH (or YHWH).
Source: Torah, Judaism
EDIT: TO RACHEL: Ummmm no we don't consider Christians using the name Jehovah as being a satanic plot LOL! Too funny. We don't really care what Christians call God, it's irrelevant to us for the most part. You will never hear a Jew calling God "Jehovah" is all, the name doesn't exist in Judaism, that isn't how we pronounced it. "Jehovah" is a Christian name for God.
2007-10-13 15:21:09
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answered by Anonymous
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If his name is so holy to you, why do you corrupt it by saying "Jehovah"?
We don't have the full spelling or pronunciation of his name. "Jehovah" is a completely made-up word that's used to translate the four Hebrew letters that stand for his unpronounceable name.
If you check the front of your Bible you'll find that it uses LORD (all upper case) to translate this same word so that you'll know when it's being used. It uses "Lord" or "lord" as a title. When it's "LORD" it's God's name. There's no corruption or change being made here -- it's just that you don't know what you're reading.
2007-10-13 15:22:17
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answered by Craig R 6
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Who ADDED the name Jehovah to the New Testament?? It doesn't appear in ANY early Greek manuscripts.
2007-10-13 15:20:19
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answered by Weird Darryl 6
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