Does God deserve your faith?

Question

My colleague, Windom Earl asked if god would forgive people who repent in hell. This is onie of the theist answers:

'Who said God has to be fair? God does exactly what he wants and fairness has nothing to do with it. He can make you burn forever for no reason whatever, and there may be some in Hell just cause God didn't like the looks of them. Don't complain, if you know what's best for you.'

Well I certainly can't complain that the description of god as a vile, petty, unjust, vindictive sickening bully is in contradiction to the bible, but honestly would any sane person want to worship something which is ethically, emotionally and intellectually inferior to you in every way?

A theist is someone who believes in a personal god? As opposed to atheist?

OK Esther, you see him as a nice guy. Don't pick up a bible and spoil your view of him.

The quality of the theist's answer is just pathetic. One is answering Windom's question. One thinks god is good, one says god deserves our respect without saying why he'd praise such a vile bully... *sigh* Did I expect better?

Huh... Well I don't agree with the false flag trickery, but its interesting that people are willing to say 'yes, I would happily worship that evil, cruel monster' so the discussion is still valid.

random thought - try reading the bible. I know some very unpleasant people who are morally superior to god.

I feel like pulling out my hair, all the theists are simply saying god is good why? because thats what they believe. Can't you see how transparently MADE UP your religion is? 'I believe x so x is true.' None of you have bothered to justify reconciling the idea of god as good with the blatantly evil character called god in the bible!

Answer 1

I have noticed that many of the conservative arguments, like the one you mentioned, sum up as "might makes right".

I've never cared how big or strong a bully was, I called them out on their bullying. That includes the Abrahamic god.

Answer 2

Well, I don't believe a theist posted that answer, more likely a troll.

Of course God deserves my faith and worship. We are the ones who aren't worthy of Him! He is just and merciful, not vile, petty or vindictive. That's why He sent Jesus for us, so we all can be with Him. God doesn't want anyone in Hell and no one is going there just for the "hell" of it.

God Bless.

Answer 3

The only thime at which God will cease to listen to one of his own is at the final judgement when satan will be cast into the lake of fire along with those who followed him. That will take place after the initial judgement day and the 1000 year reign of heaven on earth. All of this can be found in the book of revelation.

Answer 4

I suppose this really isn't an answer... more of a statement of question. This is actually a block in my current path. I feel that there is a God... but I'm not one to believe everything I read, so I don't know his/her nature. And I'm not one to blindly submit/surrender to a being, regardless of how powerful. If I disagreed with God, I'd stand up to him, regardless of the consequences. I'm stubborn that way. As a result... I have no idea if God, or any being for that matter, is worthy of the faith/love/adoration seen in so many religious groups. Or mine. I suppose it shall be an ongoing search :D

Answer 5

God is not petty, unjust, and all those other things you said. We are lucky to get what we get already. People have their whole life to chose if they want to go to Heaven or not. If they don't repent before they die, then it is too late and they can't repent in Hell. They'll want to but it will be too late.
And yes, God wants us to have faith that He will do things for us. He not some foreign being that just makes us obey what He says, He doesn't force us. We have the decision. It's up to you to make the right choice.

Answer 6

Actually, I think it was St. Nearly who posted that and he was mocking theism. Sometimes it's hard to tell the difference.

EDIT:
On the whole, though I really wasn't satisfied with the answers to my question. It seems like all the theists who replied didn't read the details.

Answer 7

Theist?

Answer 8

God has given us everything we need to have joy and peace in this life and to return to Him. He has given you the rules, he has shown you the way, he has given you every opportunity to choose to return to Him. That is the point of this life...to CHOOSE to RETURN to the Father. If you choose another path...He has simply told you what awaits down that path. It isn't petty, or unjust, or vindictive or any of the other things that were mentioned...it is simply here are your choices...only one path leads you home...only one path will bring you eternal joy and lasting peace and happiness...and if you TRUST God...He has shown it to you. All other paths don't lead to eternal joy, lasting peace or happiness. What is really sad is that people blame God for THEIR bad choices when God has given them all the tools and abilities to make the good choices.

So, what do you want? Joy or misery? Life or Death? Peace or Chaos? Each and every one of us make that choice. God doesn't make it for us.

So, does God deserve my faith...of course. Does he deserve my trust...yep. Why? Because He knows what is going on, and wants what is best for me...even if I don't know what that is just yet.

Answer 9

We should think if we deserve God's blessings and forgiveness so He let us enter in Heaven.

Answer 10

Good and evil are human relative concepts which may not apply to God.
What seems to be evil at our level may be good for some purpose we don't even grasp.