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Christians have tried to prove to me that God exists by saying that mathematicians showed that it is statistically improbable that life occurred by natural forces. They assume that because of this their god was the one that created life....Why couldn't if have been any other god? Why not Zeus, Ngai, Banaitja? Did math specify which god?

Note: Showing that something is improbable does not show that it is impossible....otherwise nobody would win the lottery.

2007-10-13 06:59:42 · 13 answers · asked by Inigo 3 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

Daniel: You missed the mark....that's all I'm going to say because a more in depth criticism of your answer would take a lot of space.

By the way there are land animals with gills and lungs. I guess they didn't get the memo from God saying that they needed to trade their gills in.

2007-10-13 09:51:54 · update #1

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It's called argument from incredulity.

That kind of reasoning turns the assumption that our universe is something free to choose to negate or allow the existence of life.

2007-10-13 07:03:03 · answer #1 · answered by 8theist 6 · 2 1

Scientifically, God exists because the universe exists. The end. Because life exists in its complexity, even the simplest mind can reason that something must have designed everything. Who made your car? Who made your house? You know that a car maker made your car and a house maker made your house. If I said that for no reason at all a mountain in the desert exploded and over thousands of years the wind blew certain materials together to form your house, you would say I was crazy. But that's what evolutionists believe. Natural processes always break down over time. The design of living animals, instincts, reproduction, thought, reason, and your conscience.

When the first land animals walked out of the water, how did they know they needed lungs to be able to breathe air? Lungs are not essential for survival underwater.

What atheists do is suppress their God-given knowledge of God by playing word games and using cleaver logic shifts to try to persuade others to see their point. And people believe these things for two reasons. 1) They think they can pass the blame if they're wrong, and plead ignorance. 2) They have to devise some way to hush their conscience to the crimes that they are doing.

But getting back to your question. Does "MY" God exist? This is a silly question, because only one God exists, no matter what "I" think. The thing to do then is to find out either which of the 'gods' actually exist, or to simply fall back and believe that God must exist but you can't know him.

To do this simply compare religions of the world and look at all the beliefs and all the gods that exist. Define their attributes and do a comparison. Look at the historical documents of each religion. Find the one that is most consistent and find the one that answers the most questions about life, the meaning of life, the creation, reasons for evil, etc.

Of all of the religions, only one stands out as complete in both reason, historical accuracy, stability, personal experience, and complete truth. His name is Jesus Christ, and one day when you die, you will bow before Him and confess that He is the Lord of all to the Glory of God the Father.

2007-10-13 07:36:12 · answer #2 · answered by dooltaz 4 · 0 1

Look, it is extremely improbable, so very improbable! But it only had to happen once in the billions of years our universe has been here. The funny thing is that if calculations are correct, life may be much more probable that anyone might have thought.

2007-10-13 07:03:37 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

i do not see why both could be like minded. If it changed into shown the skill of someone lived after actual lack of life, it would not bypass hand in hand that there's a god, deity or any form or author. Seeing something you align to a spirit of a useless individual would not make it actual or educate it exists, or that existence after lack of life exists. Time shifts could clarify what human beings say they see. Seeing lighting fixtures contained in the sky would not recommend visitors from different planets exists. The techniques is imaginative. We underestimate the skill of the techniques and our lack of ability to oftentimes decipher what we see. what percentage memories of why the Northern lighting fixtures exist, what percentage are actual.

2016-10-09 04:00:28 · answer #4 · answered by Erika 4 · 0 0

It's not that improbable when you consider there was an entire planet on which conditions were right for hundreds of millions of years.

Let me put it this way: I got a certain bridge hand (13 cards). The odds of me getting that same hand were... what, 1 in 60 billion? (I may be off by an order of magnitude). Therefore the christian god exists.

2007-10-13 07:06:30 · answer #5 · answered by Dreamstuff Entity 6 · 0 1

You're right - it could have been any of the mentioned gods. But if you have a Christian in front of you, they will say it was their god. If you have a Wiccan, you'll receive a Wicca-centric answer. If you have a non-believer, you'll get a non-believing answer.

It depends entirely on who you're talking with.

In the case of probability, the argument is merely to show that if it's believable that life began 'naturally' (though the idea of life just by chance occurring is far-fetched as well) it should be just as believable to assume it was created by intelligent design.

2007-10-13 07:05:31 · answer #6 · answered by sur4dude03 2 · 0 1

If people want proof of god, they must prove it on it's own merit. Saying evolution is improbable, still leaves the enormous god gap. It in no way proves god did it.

I would also argue their math is faulty.

2007-10-13 07:06:35 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

It does not. In fact it helps prove god does not exist.

As improbable as we are, for a being such as god to exist, would he not have to evolve as well? He would have to be much more complex than we are, there for much less probable than us. We are more probable than god.

Why have god then? It seems since we are more probable, its more likely that we created god. He was made in our image.

2007-10-13 07:03:20 · answer #8 · answered by Wandering_Man 3 · 0 1

The fact that life exists. Look around you.

2007-10-13 07:08:29 · answer #9 · answered by great gig in the sky 7 · 0 0

For the same reason that they hate to admit there are multiple non-Abrahamic religions in the world.

Because they think it is all about them.

2007-10-13 07:03:18 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

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