are these weapons dangerous aainst helicopters and aircraft in iraq or afghanistan?

Question

http://warfare.ru/?linkid=1694&catid=264&video=true&id=8

i was wondering if anyone in her with military experence knew about these weapons?

Answer 1

very dangerous, the amount of helicopters shot down would rocket sky high. lol joke, get it sky high! ha ha imao!

Answer 2

Combat Helicopters are indeed vunerable.
High speed AC like the F-15E & F-16,
or the faster than any chopper
and better armed A-10 much less so.

At least one F-16 in the ongoing ill advised
"I-rack" campain has also been lost to ground fire, and/
or a shoulder fired missle.

Provided is a link to the experiences of
The Apache Helicopters in the latest Iraq
invasion, coming up against resistance
from a well trained and equipped oppostion.

Here's a quote.

"the only major battle in the Iraq war centered on U.S. attack helicopters ended in mission failure. The raid involved 40 AH-64D Apache Longbow helicopters that attacked Iraqi Republican Guard units south of Baghdad on March 24. One was shot down (the two crewmen taken prisoner) and 30 returned to base having sustained severe damage. The Washington Post subsequently reported:"

"In attacking a formation of about 40 Apache Longbows on Monday, the Iraqis staged a classic helicopter ambush first perfected by the North Vietnamese in the 1960s. As the lethal, tank-killing aircraft approached on a mission to destroy the Medina Division's dispersed armor, troops dispersed throughout a palm-lined residential area and opened fire with antiaircraft guns, rocket-propelled grenades and a wall of fire from rifles and other small arms. ... "The Iraqi fire was so intense that the Apaches had to break off their mission and return to base."

"The results of that failed mission strongly suggest that the modern helicopter is a battlefield liability, versus such close air support aircraft as the A-10."

The Apaches were severely mauled in that episode,
Interesting that the follow on Comanche program
was canciled soon after.

Very many US helicopters of various description
have been lost since, with considerable casulties.

The US insists on using the blackhawks as flying armoured
personel carriers, wich they are not, and the Apache
as a flying tank, wich it isn't.

See also the Soviet's own mis-adventure in Afganistan.

Helicopters by definition implies a light "hummingbird"
type of technology, very usefull in SAR, and medvac.
But not as flying armour and no amount of crap piled
on, or the biggest engines you can find, to make
it fly will ever change that.
The bigger you make it, the bigger the target.

Now, don't get me started on the V-22.

God help us.

The links follow.
LuvUall Ba-bye.
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Follow up,

by Ahcho A
Wrote,

"A single bullet fired from a common rifle is dangerous if it hits a vital area on an aircraft."

Agreed, absolutely, as was empericaly demostrated in Vietnam.
Currently the 20mm rifles, made and exported by
the USA, are deadly, in the right, and unfortuately
also the WRONG hands.

Answer 3

igla is very dangerous, they are probably more usual in Iraq, where they were part of former iraqi army equipment.

These shoulder fired, MANPADS man portable air defence systems are the weapons with fastest response against helicopters and other low flying targets. they are extremely difficult to avoid, because they do not emitt active radiation - they are searching infra red - heat from engines. thus the crew must keep an eye on ground and search for the smoke trails of incoming missiles.

Answer 4

A single bullet fired from a common rifle is dangerous if it hits a vital area on an aircraft.

Answer 5

If they had them then yes they would be dangerous. However, these kind of weapons are more 'high end' and more expensive to come by thankfully. For the most part what you have to worry about is RPG's.

Answer 6

Ya, they are. The shoulder fired unit would be the choice weapon to have. It's very mobile and concealable. The mobile launch pads you really don't want against a foe that rules the skies.

Answer 7

SA 7 GRAIL SHOULDER FIRED HEAT SEEKER
SOVIET EQUIVALENT TO THE STINGER
RANGE 5 TO 8 MILES
HE FRAG WARHEAD

Answer 8

Oh yeah, too many. I know about the weapons, but will not tell for National Security reasons.