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and that the living should pray for the dead to cleanse the dead's sin?

2007-10-13 05:18:32 · 14 answers · asked by colin 2 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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I'm a Catholic, and I know it's not in the Bible. Purgatory was a common belief in early Christians that has its roots in the Greek understanding of the afterlife, and after the majority of Catholics proclaimed belief in it, the Church accepted it as truth. In Vatican II it was explained that hell is eternal separation from God and anyone who commits a mortal sin and doesn't repent goes there, heaven is eternal union with God and only saints go there directly , and purgatory is the cleansing of the soul where everyone else goes before heaven .

Hope this helped

2007-10-13 05:33:01 · answer #1 · answered by Nämenlos 3 · 3 1

On Purgatory
http://scripturecatholic.com/purgatory.html

Catholic Encyclopedia on Purgatory
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/12575a.htm

More on Purgatory
http://www.catholic.com/library/Purgatory.asp

The Roots of Purgatory
http://www.catholic.com/library/Roots_of_Purgatory.asp

Purgatory, Fact or Fiction?
http://home.inreach.com/~bstanley/purg.htm

Purgatory
Purification necessary for heaven Heb 12:14; Rev 21:27
An intermediate state of purification Mt 5:26; Lk 12:58-59
Degrees of expiation of sins Lk 12:47-48
Can be aided by prayer 2Mac 12:45
Salvation; but only as through fire 1Cor 3:15
Temporary agony 1 Cor 3:15; Mt 5:25-26
Christ preached to spiritual beings 1 Pet 3:19
Nothing unclean shall enter heaven Rev 21:27
Sacrifice for the dead 2 Mac 12:43-46
A reality beyond the two realms of Heaven and Earth a place between or near 2 Cor 5:10; Rev; 5: 2;3 Rev; 5:23; Phil 2:10; Matt 18: 23-25 Luke 23:42
No forgiveness in this age nor in the age to come. Mt 12:32
"Extra" suffering. Col 1:24; 2 Sam 12:14

Scripture Alone? Is Half the Story Sufficient?
http://www.call2holiness.org/ScriptureAlone/ScriptureAlone.htm

2007-10-13 05:38:22 · answer #2 · answered by The Cub 4 · 2 0

Biblical data of Purgation after dying. Purgatory is fairly genuine. Mt 5:40 8 be perfect as your Heavenly Father is optimal Heb 12:14 attempt for that holiness w/o which could not see God Jam 3:2 all of us fall short in many respects Rev 21:27 not something unclean shall enter heaven a million Jn 5:sixteen-17 ranges of sins renowned Jam a million:14-15 while sin reaches adulthood supplies start to dying 2 Sam 12:13-14 David, although forgiven nonetheless punished for sin Mt 5:26 you isn't released till the final penny paid Mt 12:32 sin against Holy Spirit unforgivenable in this age AND next Mt 12:36 account for each idle be conscious on judgement day 2 Mac 12:40 4-40 six atoned for ineffective to loose them from sin a million Cor 3:15 go through loss, yet saved as by hearth (PURGATION) a million puppy 3:18-20, 4:6 Jesus preached to the spirits in penitentiary 2 Tim a million:sixteen-18 Paul prays for ineffective chum Onesiphorus a million Cor 15:29-30 Paul mentions human beings baptizing for the ineffective

2016-10-22 06:30:09 · answer #3 · answered by giardina 4 · 0 0

Yes.

"But if someone's work is burned up, that one will suffer loss; the person will be saved, but only as through fire." (1 Cor 3:15)

"So that the genuineness of your faith, more precious than gold that is perishable even though tested by fire, may prove to be for praise, glory, and honor at the revelation of Jesus Christ." (1 Pet 1:7)

Are you perfect now? Most people would say no.

Will you be perfect in heaven? Most people believe yes.

Purgatory (or purgation) is the process of God's love changing our imperfect selves into perfect beings.

Depending on the amount of change needed by different people, this can be an easy or slightly harder process.

Everyone in purgatory is on his or her way to heaven.

I do not think Mother Teresa of Calcutta had a very hard time of it.

For more information see the Catechism of the Catholic Church, section 1030: http://www.usccb.org/catechism/text/pt1sect2chpt3art12.htm

With love in Christ.

2007-10-14 18:19:04 · answer #4 · answered by imacatholic2 7 · 0 0

Do you notice the differences in the Catholic Bible and the KJV? In the KJV, there is no reference to purgatory. This was brought for by the pope, and praying for the dead who did not live up to the standards to "entice" God to "bend to allow these access into heaven.
Alas to say, the Bible verse neglect here is "once to die, then judgment." When your last breath is complete, how you lived your life on earth, will you be judged by your walk with God.

This is to bring more money into the church, since monetary giving somehow pleases God and may tilt the scales in the dead's favor.

2007-10-13 05:31:04 · answer #5 · answered by n9wff 6 · 3 1

Paul prays for dead friend Onesiphorus.

N9WFF, Charity covereth a multitude of sins.

If you lead a good life but have a person who hurt you that you just couldn't fully forgive, would god punish you to hell? Does God allow imperfection in heaven? No,and NO. There's a place to atone for Divine judgement and cleanse us of impurities.

2007-10-13 05:31:32 · answer #6 · answered by carmel 4 · 1 0

1 Corinthians 3:15, and 2 Maccabees 12:42. Of course if you aren't Catholic you don't accept Maccabees as scripture, but the Catholics do, and there is your prayer for the dead.

2007-10-13 05:27:47 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 1 1

From the CCC #1030 All who die in God's grace and friendship, but still imperfectly purified, are indeed assured of their eternal salvation; but after death they undergo purification, so as to achieve the holiness necessary to enter the joy of heaven.

1031 The Church gives the name Purgatory to this final purification of the elect, which is entirely different from the punishment of the damned.606 The Church formulated her doctrine of faith on Purgatory especially at the Councils of Florence and Trent. The tradition of the Church, by reference to certain texts of Scripture, speaks of a cleansing fire:607

As for certain lesser faults, we must believe that, before the Final Judgment, there is a purifying fire. He who is truth says that whoever utters blasphemy against the Holy Spirit will be pardoned neither in this age nor in the age to come. From this sentence we understand that certain offenses can be forgiven in this age, but certain others in the age to come.608

1032 This teaching is also based on the practice of prayer for the dead, already mentioned in Sacred Scripture: "Therefore [Judas Maccabeus] made atonement for the dead, that they might be delivered from their sin."609 From the beginning the Church has honored the memory of the dead and offered prayers in suffrage for them, above all the Eucharistic sacrifice, so that, thus purified, they may attain the beatific vision of God.610 The Church also commends almsgiving, indulgences, and works of penance undertaken on behalf of the dead:

Let us help and commemorate them. If Job's sons were purified by their father's sacrifice, why would we doubt that our offerings for the dead bring them some consolation? Let us not hesitate to help those who have died and to offer our prayers for them.611

Scripture references: corinthians 3:15, 1 Peter 1:7, 2 Macabbees 12:46

You asked for references and there they are, official and confirmed-I neither deny nor defend them-only fulfill your assignment.
Sparks

2007-10-13 05:22:43 · answer #8 · answered by Makemeaspark 7 · 2 2

Bible believing Non Catholic here.
The primary Scriptural passage Catholics point to for evidence of Purgatory is 1 Corinthians 3:15, which says, “If it is burned up, he will suffer loss; he himself will be saved, but only as one escaping through the flames.” The passage (1 Corinthians 3:12-15) is using an illustration of things going through fire as a description of believers’ works being judged. If our works are of good quality “gold, sliver, costly stones,” they will pass through the fire unharmed, and we will be rewarded for them. If our works are of poor quality “wood, hay, and straw,” they will be consumed by the fire, and there will be no reward. The passage does not say that believers pass through the fire, but rather that a believer’s works pass through the fire. 1 Corinthians 3:15 refers to the believer “escaping through the flames,” not “being cleansed by the flames.”
Purgatory, like many other Catholic dogmas, is based on a misunderstanding of the nature of Christ’s sacrifice. Catholics view the Mass / Eucharist as a re-presentation of Christ’s sacrifice because they fail to understand that Jesus’ once for all sacrifice was absolutely and perfectly sufficient (Hebrews 7:27). Catholics view meritorious works as contributing to salvation due to a failure to recognize that Jesus’ sacrificial payment has no need of additional “contribution” (Ephesians 2:8-9). Similarly, Purgatory is understood by Catholics as a place of cleansing in preparation for Heaven because they do not recognize that because of Jesus’ sacrifice, we are already cleansed, declared righteous, forgiven, redeemed, reconciled, and sanctified.

2007-10-13 05:26:28 · answer #9 · answered by Freedom 7 · 4 2

Sorry kathleen, but Maccabees is NOT a part of the Bible.....and even if it were, it would part of the OLD TESTAMENT, prior to Jesus death and resurrection.

There is NOTHING in the Bible telling us to pray for the dead. Instead it says "It is appointed unto man once to die, and then the judgement". PERIOD.

2007-10-13 05:28:55 · answer #10 · answered by lady_phoenix39 6 · 4 1

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