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can one be saved? How much sense that makes considering all the blunders they have made with false doctrines and prophecies?

What happeded to all people who died while were disfellowshipped, but proven right after the God's only true organization changed the message to more truthful message of God?

So did these false messages come form One true God or " a god" Jesus Christ who is alleged archangel Michael by your doctrines?

2007-10-13 01:50:42 · 14 answers · asked by Nina, BaC 7 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

Iron Serpent: Since you do now show your q's and A's, and you do not allow comminication, how I am supposed to "show" you anything what you ask??

I belive jesus came her to free us from religions. He wanted to teach us how to have a personal and life saving relationship with God.

Churches, organizations and humans make mistakes: GOD never makes mistakes. So it is wise to follow GOD and not any religion, organizatin or someone fully human.

I think it is foolish to belive in organization who thinks that they are the only ones who teach the truth and then you see them changing their doctrines in very important issues.

2007-10-13 03:01:45 · update #1

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They are most reluctant to admit to this in public, but their leaders are not so coy. In the 1 Sept 2000 'Watchtower' p23 they said, 'It is through the collective body of anointed, "the faithful and discreet slave," that the other sheep have had opened to them an understanding of the precious promises contained in God's Word. Together, anointed and other sheep know and worship the only ture God, Jehovah... They serve together as one flock under on Shepherd, Jesus Christ. They are all part of one loving, global brotherhood. They share together the privilege of being Witnesses of Jehovah and of his Kingdom. Yes, if you are a dedicated and baptized servant of Jehovah, all of this is included in your spiritual heritage.'

That's perfectly clear, isn't it? You cannot understand God's promises in scripture without the F&D class - JW leaders. The F&D and those following them (the other sheep) worship Jehovah as one flock, as one brotherhood. IF you are a dedicated baptized JW, you are included in all that.

Further, this leadership said 'Your attitude toward the wheatlike anointed "brothers" of Christ [themselves] and the treatment you accord them will be the determining factor as to whether you go into "everlasting cutting off" or receive "everlasting life". Prove yourself to be a loyal companion of the anointed "wheat" class, the "faithful and discreet slave", whom Christ has appointed to provide spiritual "food at the proper time". Keep active in the ingathering work.' (Watchtower 1 Aug 1981 p26)

Well, that's even clearer! Never mind what you think of Christ, the determining factor is what you think of the elite JW leadership in Brooklyn! Follow them and you'll survive Armageddon! Such breath-taking arrogance!

2007-10-13 02:28:32 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 2 3

First we don't join the organization , we dedicate ourselves to doing Jehovah's will and following the teachings of Jesus Christ and God's word the Bible . The Watchtower is a tool used to point to Gods word and help us study and reason upon it . Jesus Christ is our king ! We follow his lead as our head and Jehovah is head over him . Now ! Lets say that you were raised and loved by your parents , they took good care of you and you grew up happy and healthy all because you followed there headship. Would you even wonder if they lead you wrong ? They must have learned from a trust worthy source to have done such a fine job . If someone said , why did you listen to your parents and why do you train your family , like you was raised ? They might add , I think they raised you all wrong and were badly miss lead and yet you are happy and healthy with a hope for the future and you feel close to God , his Son and your family . More has been proven true to you then wrong , would you ever question it ? When all that you do ,feels so right and works so well and you find it constantly trust worthy ; do you ever wonder if it's wrong or if there is a better way ? I don't ! I have been those other ways and it was dark and lonely without any hope . I did not feel close to God or feel like he was my friend . I did not understand his word or able to use it so well to direct my life. Millions on earth feel as I do . That God has a organization on earth like he has in the past . That his word is true ! We have found an a organization that follows Christ as King and his word and tell us the truth , showing us in his word . I would list a bunch of scriptures to read and I'm sure one of my brothers or sisters on here will . If your honest hearted in your question , you'll listen to the next one that come to you with Bible in hand. That preaching work is united and organized by means of Holy Spirit through his faithful slave . This is my whole souled but imperfect answer because I am but an imperfect man that Loves God his Son and his neighbor with all his heart , mind , soul and strength .

2016-05-22 05:18:58 · answer #2 · answered by ? 3 · 0 0

At the time of Noah's flood, how many outside the ark were saved.
God provided a place of safety and it was up to each one to get in it.
That ark represents His organization today.
You don't have to be convinced that organization is Jehovah's Witnesses, but God is providing an organization and it is the place of safety.
Did Noah make any mistakes while building the ark?
Probably ....he had never built one before.
Does that mean God wasn't really using him?
So today, mistakes are made ....and corrected.
Its best to concentrate on our own situation, where we stand and not be obsessed with matters that God only can settle.

2007-10-13 02:02:34 · answer #3 · answered by Uncle Thesis 7 · 3 0

It is obedience to God's laws that make a person acceptable to God. Not just membership of an organisation.
These main points must be kept in mind.
1. Works must accompany faith. All baptised J.W's and even some unbaptised associates [ under supervision] are required to preach. Matthew 28; 19,20...Acts 5;42....Acts 20;20
2. What is preached is the Kingdom...Daniel 2;44...Matthew 6; 9.10
3. no ICONS of any sort are used. Exodus 20; 4,5...John 4;23
4. Almighty God's personal name is respected and used. .Exodus 6;3...Psalm 83;18\
5. Jesus is known as God's son, not God himself.
John 5;19...
The answer to the second comment.
All people who die are subject to Eclesiastes 9; 5,6
If every other existing religious organisation is tested against the cited scriptures, it becomes clear as to which one is coming closest to obeying what God requires./

2007-10-13 02:08:04 · answer #4 · answered by pugjw9896 7 · 1 0

No, you are mistaken here.
Jehovah's Witnesses believe in the bible and the bible says that there is going to be a resurrection of both the righteous and the unrighteous.

I think you are referring to the great crowd which survive the forthcoming battle of Armageddon. The bible tells us that a few chosen ones will survive the battle and it clearly states that these survivors will be used to prepare the earth for the Resurrection which will take place after the 1.000 year reign of Jesus Christ.

The bible also tells us that God loved the world so much that he gave his only begotten son to save it. In this context the bible is referring to all of mankind not just his christian witnesses.

Be assured that what ever faith you choose to follow Jehovah loves you. The Jehovah's Witnesses have been taken out for the specific job of preaching the good news in all the inhabited earth for a witness.

No matter what you have "heard" Jehovah's Witnesses condemn no one, it is not theirs to judge any one.

I am a Jehovah's Witness.

2007-10-13 01:55:00 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 3 1

Cultists are very well trained to appear "Christian", and indeed believe they are the true churche, and you need the deliverance! Therefore, be bold and ask the question, "do you believe the group you represent is the only true church on the face of the earth?"
If they reply that they are, or if they are evasive, making remarks like "Well, every church has a measure of truth but...", you have made an early detection of a Cultist.
Every true Christian, if asked the same question, regardless of his denomination, would reply that the true church is comprised of believers in the Lord Jesus Christ, and HE (not some organization) is THE WAY, THE TRUTH, AND THE LIFE, (John 14:6). No legitimate denomination would claim that they alone and their members have salvation exclusively, but the cults (the counterfeits) do.

2007-10-13 04:44:22 · answer #6 · answered by Freedom 7 · 3 2

Do Christians honestly believe that only being a part of Christians church Jesus will not torture people in hell?

if we can´t prove our point what make you think you can prove the same?

Nina I wll tell you something you will see in the next year how all false religions will be involve in politics and you will see scandals and you will see them doing nasty thing , the one that is not involve in that is the right one....it is very easy.

2007-10-13 02:04:24 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 2 0

Show me a religion that hasn't made a mistake.

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I would expect you to able to make a solid argument within the bounds of this quesiton. If you feel that you have the truth, surely you want it to reach as many as possible. This won't be possible by engaging in personal correspondence with me. Being able to see my questions and answers will also not help you prove anything to me.

I think you have made a fair point: Most religious organizations have produced bad fruitage. But it is not the fact that groups are organized that is bad. Many have promoted forms of worship that are based on false teachings. True religion would of course be a refreshing contrast. To fulfill the Bible’s requirements, it must be organized.

Hebrews 10:24, 25 says: "Let us consider one another to incite to love and fine works, not forsaking the gathering of ourselves together, as some have the custom, but encouraging one another, and all the more so as you behold the day drawing near." To carry out this Scriptural command, there must be Christian meetings that we can attend on a consistent basis. Such an arrangement encourages us to express love toward others, not only concern about self.

1 Corinthians 1:10 says: "Now I exhort you, brothers, through the name of our Lord Jesus Christ that you should all speak in agreement, and that there should not be divisions among you, but that you may be fitly united in the same mind and in the same line of thought." Such unity would never be achieved if the individuals did not meet together, benefit from the same spiritual feeding program, and respect the agency through which such instruction was provided.

In prayer, Jesus himself said: "I make request, not concerning these only, but also concerning those putting faith in me through their word; in order that they may all be one, just as you, Father, are in union with me and I am in union with you, that they also may be in union with us, in order that the world may believe that you sent me forth." (John 17:20, 21) He clearly wanted his followers to be united, not going it alone.

1 Peter 2:17 says: "Have love for the whole association of brothers."

The apostle Paul told the Corinthians: "The congregations of Asia send you their greetings." (1 Corinthians 16:19)

Matthew 24:14 says: "This good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations; and then the end will come." For all nations to be given the opportunity to hear that good news, the preaching must be carried out in an orderly way, with suitable oversight. Love for God and for one’s fellowman has caused people around the earth to unite their efforts to do this work.

You admit that humans make mistakes, so how can one person be confident that they are following God if they are doing things on their own? Especially when the above verses show that God wants his followers to congregate and associate just as the Israelites did during their festivals.

So, show me one person that hasn't ever made a mistake.

I disagree that it is foolish to think God would have an organised religion on earth. When Jesus trained his early disciples for this work, He did not simply tell each one to go wherever he desired and to share his faith in whatever way he chose. He trained them, gave them instructions and sent them out in an organized manner. (Luke 8:1; 9:1-6; 10:1-16.)

1 Corinthians 14:33, 40 says: "God is a God, not of disorder, but of peace. . . . Let all things take place decently and by arrangement." The apostle Paul is here discussing orderly procedure at congregation meetings. Applying this inspired counsel requires respect for organization.

I would rather be part of an organisation that changed it's mind on important issues in line with progressive Bible study, rather than sticking with an organisation that continued to believe and teach those inaccuracies because it wanted to save face.

The changes you see Jehovah's Witnesses making to their beliefs are not relating to central doctrines, but rather a fine-tuning in understanding of certain Bible principles. Prophecies, for example, are often better understood after their fulfillment.

I have no issues with you picking fault with organised religions, but going by your questions, Jehovah's Witnesses are the main focus of your criticisms. Do you feel that organised religions like the Catholic and Protestant faiths, Islam, etc. are ok?

2007-10-13 02:52:20 · answer #8 · answered by Iron Serpent 4 · 1 0

Oh yes.... soon You will BE REPORTED .... as I have been many times....... ! There is a Question Screened that has Deleted MANY of my "such like posts!"

AND.... " NO"..... they are Not Honest.... as Each ONE.... that I have Corresponded with.... ON THIS SITE..... has Promised... and Failed to Explain..... HOW JESUS RAISED HIS OWN BODY!

(John 2:18-to-22) Then the Jews answered and said to Him, What sign do you show us, since you do these things?

(Joh 2:19) Jesus answered and said to them, Destroy this temple and in three days I will raise it up.

(Joh 2:20) Then the Jews said, This temple was forty-six years building, and will you rear it up in three days?

(Joh 2:21) But He spoke of the temple of His body.

(Joh 2:22) Therefore when He had risen from the dead, His disciples remembered that He had said this to them, and they believed the Scripture and the word which Jesus had said.

EACH ONE.... that has Promised me an answer..... HAS FAILED TO TELL ME........ HOW JESUS IS NOT GOD....!

ONLY GOD.... CAN RAISE HIS OWN BODY.... AS JESUS DID....!

Thanks, RR

2007-10-13 02:36:51 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 1 1

No, Jehovah's Witnesses do not believe that they are the only ones who will be saved.

2007-10-13 06:46:33 · answer #10 · answered by achtung_heiss 7 · 1 0

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