I was thinking about the conversion stories of Paul and Peter.
Peter: At the last supper Peter announces that he will never be offended by Jesus, Jesus predicts that Peter will deny Him 3 times before the rooster crows. Then Jesus says that He will pray for Peter that his faith will endure and that after he is converted he is to strengthen his fellow believers. The implication is that at this point Peter is not converted, then Jesus is arrested and Peter fillfuls prophecy and denies Christ and runs away. Next time we see Peter and Jesus together Jesus is telling Him to 'feed my sheep'.
It seems to me that Peter knew Christ but was not converted till he also 'knew' himself.
Paul has a dramatic conversion experiance on the road to Damascus, he already knows what he is capable of (held the coats at the stoning of Stephen) but he is not converted until he meets Christ.
So my premise is: To be converted a person needs to know themselves and Christ...
Any thoughts?
2007-10-12 22:16:27 · 7 answers · asked by CatKween 2 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
your premise is almost right by me, except i don't think we truly know ourselves UNTIL we know Christ. Jesus' message is vastly different from the way we do things; in modern western society, we're told that we need to ''find ourselves,'' but Jesus came along and basically said ''this is who you are and what you're capable of through Me. now go and realize your potential.'' but yes, we absolutely HAVE to know Christ in order to be born again.
2007-10-12 22:32:53 · answer #1 · answered by That Guy Drew 6 · 1⤊ 1⤋
By saying this prayer to God :
"Most Holy Trinity,Father,Son and Holy Spirit.I adore you profoundly and i offer you the most precious Body,Blood,Soul,and Divinity of Jesus Christ,present in all the tabernacles of the World in reparation for the outrages,sacrileges and indifference by which he himself is offended and by the infinite merits of his most Sacred Heart and the Immaculate Heart of Mary,i beg of you ,the conversion of poor sinners"
2007-10-13 08:56:15 · answer #2 · answered by ROBERT P 7 · 0⤊ 1⤋
The ministry of The Holy Spirit within us is to reveal ALL truth. that would include the truth about ourselves.
2007-10-13 05:40:11 · answer #3 · answered by single eye 5 · 1⤊ 0⤋
I have no room or place for conversion...it strips free chooice from anyone..ande that in itself is a sin.
2007-10-13 19:51:04 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
I think you should substitute conversion with brain washing
2007-10-13 06:29:50 · answer #5 · answered by peter b 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
to be converted you have to believe inthe words of two fallable men of whom greed and selfishness prevail.
2007-10-13 06:09:34 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 3⤊ 1⤋
paul did not converted to chrstianity, rather he converted chrsitianity to paulism.
2007-10-13 05:23:13 · answer #7 · answered by Happily Happy 7 · 4⤊ 4⤋