what about the Lord's Prayer?

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in my opinion, i think the Lord's Prayer is more of a guide line on how to pray, if you wish for me to explain, please say so, i am not explainig on here because it would take forever to type it out, but if you want to know more, than i would be more than glad to type it out for you. Just let me know.

let me try to explain:

even in Jesus's time, you have to understand that he was speaking metaphorically alot. when he said when your hand causes you to sin, cut it off. you think he really meant cut your hand off? no, he didnt really mean that. His intent was teaching how to pray. He was like, this is how i want you to pray, this is a guide line/ example. im not saying that there is anything wrong with praying the Lord's prayer, i dont believe in praying a prayer that you dont believe. The Bible: people tend to only look at one translation of the bible. for ex. the King James, because for the longest time that was one of the hottest debated things. How can we say that this is truly God's word if there are millions of diffrent translations of it? The King James bible has the v the becase it is a version, it is not the truth its not the original. Think about this, King James was a pervert. therefore, why would you translate from someone who could rip your life to shreds?

here's the problem i have, imnot saying that people that dont have an education aren't smart, but what im saying is it's usually the people that are die hard saying that this is the only version, are the ones that have absolutley zero education in them. im not gonna take a scholars take onit just because he/she is a scholar, but when you get a buch of scholars that are saying ok here's the deal..thats the problem. the samething with the Lord's prayer. We hear something and think just because people have dnoe/said it forever, that means thats the way its supposed to be.some people say that the bible says that God will never put more on you than you can handle. the bible never says that. not once. it doesnt even imply it.
this is my opinion on what the prayer says:

our father who art in heaven hallowed be thy name: thats praising God.
it goes through all this forgive us our sins all this stuff give us this day aour daily bread. your asking, him hey God, take care of my day... (tbc)

...but when does it get specific? thats where my argument comes in. now wait a second, if thats literally how we pray, then why do we pray other ways? do you think when Jesus was in the garden, when he came out and was talking to God that he said let this stuff pass from me, wait a second, he's not praying the Lord's prayer. I dont mean to be confusing, but d oyou see what im saying? when people come up and say there's nothing wrong with praying the Lor'd prayer, yeah there's nothing wrong with it, but to pass it off as, i have to pray this prayer ecause that's what Jesus saidto pray, he's not being literal, he is metaphorically speaking. if you click on the mouse and pronography pops up, and now your hand has made you sin aswell as your eyes, are you going to cut your arms off and poke your eyes out just because Jesus said to do that? no, of course not. He was metaphorically speaking. im not trying to bash tthe Lord's prayer or anything, im just saying.

about the "us":

Jesus has to say us there. when He says forgive us our tresspasses, forgive us our debts, when He's talking about sin,forgive us of our sins, Jesus has to say us, he just cant say him there, you know why? Jesus never sinned. He cant say me he has to say us. some people thik that "us" means either a group of people or the universe, but unfortunatley, it theologically wrong.its good on thought, bad on theology. in not trying to bash anybody, im just saying..

Answer 1

+ "Teach us how to pray," the disciples said to Jesus. (Luke 11, 1) He answered by teaching them the prayer we call the Our Father or The Lord's Prayer.

The Lord's Prayer is a basic Christian prayer. As a model of prayer, every Christian learns it by heart. It appears everywhere in the church's life: in its liturgy and sacraments, in public and private prayer. It is a prayer Christians treasure.

Though we memorize it as a set formula, the Lord's Prayer shouldn't be repeated mechanically or without thought. Its purpose is to awaken and stimulate our faith. Through this prayer Jesus invites us to approach God as Father. Indeed, the Lord's Prayer has been called a summary of the gospel.

+ Our Father, who art in heaven,
+ hallowed be thy name.

When Moses approached God on Mount Sinai, he heard a voice saying, "Do not come near; put off your shoes from your feet, for the place on which you are standing is holy ground." An infinite chasm separates us from the transcendent God.

In the Lord's Prayer, Jesus invites us to draw near to God who is beyond human understanding, who dwells in mystery, who is all holy. We can call God "our Father".

Calling God "Father" does not mean that God is masculine. God is beyond the categories of gender, of masculine or feminine. None of our descriptions of God is adequate. God, who is "in heaven", whose name is holy, cannot be fully known by us.

By calling God "Father" we are more rightly describing ourselves and our relationship with God. Jesus teaches that we have a filial relationship with God; God sees us as if we were a daughter or a son. And we, on our part, can approach God in the familiar confident way a child approaches a loving parent. What is more, we approach God through God's only Son, Jesus Christ, who unites us to himself.

+ Thy Kingdom come,
+ thy will be done,
+ on earth as it is in heaven.

God's kingdom. Jesus often said that God's power would appear and renew all creation. God like a mighty king would rule over the earth according to a plan that unfolds from the beginning of the world. God's kingdom would be marked by peace and justice. Good would be rewarded and evil punished. The kingdom, according to Jesus, is not far off, but already present in our midst, though not yet revealed.

In the Lord's Prayer we pray that God's kingdom come, that God's will, which is for our good, be done on earth as it is in heaven.

+ Give us this day our daily bread.

We are God's children. What can be more childlike than this petition in which we pray for our daily bread, a word that describes all those physical, human and spiritual gifts we need to live. With the confidence of children we say: "Give us this day what we need."

+ Forgive us our trespasses,
+ as we forgive those who trespass against us.

This petition of the Lord's Prayer is a demanding one. Not only do we ask God's forgiveness for our daily offenses, but we link God's forgiveness of us with our forgiveness of others. Forgiving others is not always easy to do. We need God's help to do it. But it must be done or we ourselves cannot receive God's mercy.

+ And lead us not into temptation,
+ but deliver us from evil. Amen.

Life is not easy. It is a daily battle. Trials like sickness and failure can crush our spirits. False values and easy promises can entice us and even destroy our souls. And so we ask God to keep us from failing when we are tested, to help us to know the right thing to do, to deliver us from the evil awaits us in life.

The Lord's Prayer sums up the teaching of Jesus. It is also a prayer that offers the grace of Jesus: his reverence for God, his childlike confidence in his Father, and his power to go bravely through life no matter what comes. When we pray his prayer, his spirit becomes our own.

For more information, see that Catechism of the Catholic Church: http://www.usccb.org/catechism/text/pt4sect2.htm#12

+ With love in Christ.

Answer 2

So does that mean the whole Bible is a guideline? Do we get to pick and choose what Jesus meant and what he REALLY meant?

and another thing while I am thinking about it---why would someone think their rendition would be better than Jesus'?

Answer 3

I hope it is just a guideline since most people misquote it.

Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done IN earth, as it is in heaven.

In earth is different than on earth.

Matthew 6:9
After this MANNER therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.

Answer 4

I love the Lord's prayer. I have been saying this prayer for 20ish years. This prayer was the first prayer I learned.

Answer 5

Well that's your opinion. And you know what opinions are like.....

Answer 6

i agree with u .. i think the same thing ..