As the Bible says, I am already saved (Rom. 8:24, Eph. 2:5–8), but I’m also being saved (1 Cor. 1:8, 2 Cor. 2:15, Phil. 2:12), and I have the hope that I will be saved (Rom. 5:9–10, 1 Cor. 3:12–15). Like the apostle Paul I am working out my salvation in fear and trembling (Phil. 2:12), with hopeful confidence in the promises of Christ (Rom. 5:2, 2 Tim. 2:11–13)."
Jesus himself tells us, "He who endures to the end will be saved"
Christ has abundantly provided for our salvation, but that does not mean that there is no process by which this is applied to us as individuals. Obviously, there is, or we would have been saved and justified from all eternity, with no need to repent or have faith or anything else. We would have been born "saved," with no need to be born again. Since we were not, since it is necessary for those who hear the gospel to repent and embrace it, there is a time at which we come to be reconciled to God. And if so, then we, like Adam and Eve, can become unreconciled with God and, like the prodigal son, need to come back and be reconciled again with God, after having left his family.
Paul: "See then the kindness and the severity of God: severity toward those who have fallen, but God’s kindness to you, provided you continue in his kindness; otherwise you too will be cut off"
Jesus declared: ‘Not everyone who says to me, "Lord, Lord" shall enter the kingdom of heaven’ (Matt. 7:21)."
One can be confident of one’s present salvation. This is one of the chief reasons why God gave us the sacraments—to provide visible assurances that he is invisibly providing us with his grace. And one can be confident that one has not thrown away that grace by simply examining one’s life and seeing whether one has committed mortal sin.
Likewise, by looking at the course of one’s life in grace and the resolution of one’s heart to keep following God, one can also have an assurance of future salvation. It is this Paul speaks of when he writes to the Philippians and says, "And I am sure that he who began a good work in you will bring it to completion at the day of Jesus Christ" (Phil. 1:6). This is not a promise for all Christians, or even necessarily all in the church at Philippi, but it is a confidence that the Philippian Christians in general would make it. The basis of this is their spiritual performance to date, and Paul feels a need to explain to them that there is a basis for his confidence in them. Thus he says, immediately, "It is right for me to feel thus about you all, because I hold you in my heart, for you are all partakers with me of grace, both in my imprisonment and in the defense and confirmation of the gospel" (1:7). The fact that the Philippians performed spiritually by assisting Paul in his imprisonment and ministry showed that their hearts were with God and that it could be expected that they, at least in general, would persevere and remain with God.
Paul did not claim an infallible assurance, either of his present justification or of his remaining in grace in the future. Concerning his present state, he wrote, "I am not aware of anything against myself, but I am not thereby justified [Gk., dedikaiomai]. It is the Lord who judges me" (1 Cor. 4:4). Concerning his remaining life, Paul was frank in admitting that even he could fall away: "I pummel my body and subdue it, lest after preaching to others I myself should be disqualified" (1 Cor. 9:27). Of course, for a spiritual giant such as Paul, it would be quite unexpected and out of character for him to fall from God’s grace. Nevertheless, he points out that, however much confidence in his own salvation he may be warranted in feeling, even he cannot be infallibly sure either of his own present state or of his future course.
The same is true of us. We can, if our lives display a pattern of perseverance and spiritual fruit, have not only a confidence in our present state of grace but also of our future perseverance with God. Yet we cannot have an infallible certitude of our own salvation, as many Protestants will admit. There is the possibility of self-deception (cf. Matt. 7:22-23). As Jeremiah expressed it, "The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately corrupt; who can understand it?" (Jer. 17:9). There is also the possibility of falling from grace through mortal sin, and even of falling away from the faith entirely, for as Jesus told us, there are those who "believe for a while and in time of temptation fall away" (Luke 8:13). It is in the light of these warnings and admonitions that we must understand Scripture’s positive statements concerning our ability to know and have confidence in our salvation. Assurance we may have; infallible certitude we may not.
For example, Philippians 2:12 says, "Therefore, my beloved, as you have always obeyed, so now, not only as in my presence but much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling." This is not the language of self-confident assurance. Our salvation is something that remains to be worked out.
Once saved, always saved is a work of satan.
2007-10-12 15:09:13
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answered by SpiritRoaming 7
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Think about it for a second. What happened to all of those who lived before Christ? The concept of saved and salvation came along decades after the death of Christ. So those who died before Christ were not saved?
2007-10-12 15:54:45
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answered by steve 6
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God gives us the choice to obey or disobey (Heb. 5:9; Jn. 12:48; Acts 13:46; Luke 9:23, etc.) We are saved by grace (Eph. 2:8), but this is not unconditional. His grace is given to those who choose to submit to His will (Titus 2:11-14; 1 Pet. 5:5-6; Jas. 4:7-10).
a righteous man who perseveres to the end cannot be lost (Rev. 2:10).
Since choice is involved in our salvation, then it is possible to choose to turn away from God. I don't know of any passage which more clearly defines this point for us than Ezekiel 18. The whole chapter is significant to this discussion, but notice verse 24: "But when a righteous man turns away from his righteousness and commits iniquity, and does according to all the abominations that the wicked man does, shall he live? All the righteousness which he has done shall not be remembered; because of the unfaithfulness of which he is guilty and the sin which he has committed, because of them he shall die."
Hebrews 3:12-14 "Beware, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief in departing from the living God; but exhort one another daily, while it is called 'Today,' lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin. For we have become partakers of Christ if we hold the beginning of our confidence steadfast to the end."
Romans 11:22 "Therefore consider the goodness and severity of God: on those who fell, severity; but toward you, goodness, if you continue in His goodness. Otherwise you also will be cut off."
where did you ever hear that you were saved no matter what?
2007-10-12 15:12:34
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answered by Anonymous
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Can an Ex- Catholic actual Atheist is allowed to answer your question?
Please.
Edit : thanks.
The concept of salvation is nonsense to me.
I believe we are part of the circle of life in the macro and micro universe. Life and dead are only process on this never ending story. Salvation is part of the religious FEAR to the a possible nonexistence afterlife.
Saved from what ?
2007-10-12 15:09:57
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answered by Lost. at. Sea. 7
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I can answer all those questions with one scripture...Yes I have been saved, baptised,,,filled with the Holy Spirt with the evidense of speaking in tongues......signed up in the Lamb's book of life,,sealed by the Holy spirit,,,and delivered of my sins....Praise the Lord. When those outside the upper room, asked what they must do to be saved,,this is what Peter said....
Acts 2:38 (New International Version)
Peter replied, "Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.
That is what all the Churches I attend teach and preach.
2007-10-12 15:10:26
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answered by dreamdress2 6
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I just feel like answering for the points really than this waste of time, sure I might have been baptised at one point, but I was a kid and didnt know what I was getting into.
2007-10-12 15:44:49
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answered by midnitepoets 6
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Save the music.
2016-04-08 06:14:11
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answered by ? 4
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I work out my salvation daily with fear and trembling. I have been baptized and I have been confirmed in the Faith and I receive the Holy Eucharist in Communion. I try to examine my conscience daily and I try to live my life in Gods presence at all times. God is merciful and so I trust in him to save me.
2007-10-12 15:07:16
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answered by Midge 7
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Yes, by hot guys with Britsh accents.
2007-10-12 15:06:16
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answered by Zombie Princess, (2012) 4
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No.
Atheist.
2007-10-12 15:03:07
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answered by S K 7
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Yes, I receive salvation, why? Because I don't want to go hell anymore. I want to follow Him (Jesus), because I want to be peace my life when I will go heaven, and God help me and care of me too. I do love Him. So if you accept your savior, you will not have to worry about future. if you not accept your savior, you will a real fear and worry too much and no hope your life. This is your decide.
2007-10-12 15:07:13
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answered by Scott W 1
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