so, god put forbidden fruit in the garden of eden....and since god is all knowing, he knew adam and eve would mess up and go get that fruit. why doesn't god take more blame? why, when something good happens is it god and when something bad happens it is the sins of man? god created all of this and he created the sins of man....whose fault is all this messed up crap anyway? i'm pointing a finger at you god!
2007-10-12 09:57:16 · 13 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
come on people...try to think about this....if god gives us free will, but he knows ahead of time what we are going to do....do we really have free will?
god KNEW adam would take the apple. if he didn't know, he isn't all powerful.
2007-10-12 10:02:22 · update #1
It is fair to blame god.
If I as a parent put a loaded gun on a table and told my children not to touch it, yet they end up shooting someone, is it fair to punish them?
Am I without blame?
God is a negligent parent.
Edit:
All I see from christian rsponses is:
Blah, blah, blah, freewill, blah, blah, blah.
2007-10-12 10:02:04 · answer #1 · answered by Dark-River 6 · 3⤊ 4⤋
First ;
He knew the past, the future,, otherwise He wouldnt be "God"
And that Adam & Eve were taken from Eden to Earth had so many consequences. Humans having diamond souls and "souls like coal " were distinguished from each other.
And everyone took the path where they deserved with their actions.
Second;
Yes,, we are responsible from bad because a very slight, little action & behavior of us cause big consequences.
God gives us everything to ensure us make good things. But you choose the "bad" with your "free will",,and thus you are responsible with it .
Let me give you an example ;
"You have a garden full of fruit trees . Your aim is to have fruits from that garden. So you need sun, air, heat,water and many minerals . What you do is only to water the garden.Others ??,,no,, you cant interfere most of them.And the time comes and you get fruits finally. Can you say that I made ,, I caused that fruits ,, no. Because there are other factors than watering.
But think the reverse ,, you forgot to water the garden,,so caused all trees dry. Now YOU are responsible and have to take the blame.You just didnt do a simple thing but it had bad consequences."
This is why we are responsible for bad.
2007-10-12 17:16:20 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
I'll add to your ego; you're right, partially, when you say that
God knows all, including all the bad, evil things that are to
ever happen in the world. Did you know that God handed
over "time" to Satan. Right, God didn't have to do it, but His
ways are not ours. He is letting us experience life, with us in
control. He's giving us enough rope to hang ourselves.
You sure are being high minded to "reply against the One
who created you"; Romans 9:20. When you create something, do you ask it's permission to do with it as you
please? Man rebelled against his creator, and God knew man would, but does that mean God caused it? Knowing
something is going to happen, and being the cause of it
are two very different things. God allowed these things to
be to show us what a mess things can become without His
intervention. Man thinks he is in control, so God let man see
just what a mess man can make of things, when he is in "control".
Jesus' disciples asked why a certain man was born blind. They asked if it was because he or his parents had sinned.
Jesus said, No, not because of the sin of either him or his
parents, but that Jesus' could show His power in him. Is that
so wrong? Without God's intervention, things get in an awful mess, but with His intervention, the blind see. We make the
messes, He cleans up behind us. That is why He died, after
all!!!
Go ahead and blame God for your failures. If you became blind, could you heal yourself? Should you lose a limb, could
you restore it? Should you die, could you bring back your
life? God has the power to do all these things and more, but
man gives him no glory. All we do is complain, and point
our finger at the only solution for ALL OF OUR ILLS.
God could've very easily walked away from creation, and left
us to suffer all the effects of our control over it, but He is a
loving and merciful God. He will show us His power by restoring us from our fallen state of being. Let me see you
make this wicked world into a garden of eden. Can't you
see how we have failed God? We are worthy of nothing.
2007-10-12 21:18:44 · answer #3 · answered by Elder Woman 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Even though God knows all, he can choose not to interfere with man's decisions. God did not "create the sins of man". God created man with a free will and it is man's choice to sin or not. God created the rules but he gave man the CHOICE on whether to follow them or not.
2007-10-12 17:13:46 · answer #4 · answered by TG 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
You are right. He did everything even though He knew what would happen. And then after that, He didn't want everybody. He only wanted some.
So those who are given grace by Him are supposed to treat it like a great gift. God is the boss and He chooses - He has an opinion. He likes somethings, and doesn't like other things.
So if a person finds them self wanting to know God, it is great. Because most people He does not want. Only those who He wants want to come to Him.
2007-10-12 17:06:37 · answer #5 · answered by Christian Sinner 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Oh yea? Well look at the other three pointing back at... ah, forget it.
The point is, it's all part of the great mystery of God, which is revealed in Christ. It is a moot point that there was sin in the world or that adam and eve screwed up things for their decendents, everything is one on one now between you and God because Christ died in your place to reconcile you to God, ie, undo what they did.
Go from there.
Gypsy Priest
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2007-10-12 17:10:14 · answer #6 · answered by Gypsy Priest 4 · 0⤊ 1⤋
Actually god created humans with free will and adam and eve messed up on their own
2007-10-12 17:01:35 · answer #7 · answered by hairytoes11 3 · 3⤊ 2⤋
Because God is holy and perfect and cannot sin. He made the world and gave us the freedom to choose. God lets us choose the bad over good.
2007-10-12 17:01:05 · answer #8 · answered by Strats!! 4 · 2⤊ 2⤋
He gave us the choice to stay with him or turn away. After all, we were created to have a perfect relationship with him. Would a forced relationship be perfect? No. It wasn't long before we turned away, but God has always been faithful to take us back.
2007-10-12 17:02:06 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 2⤋
God gave Adam and Eve everything they could ever want in the garden...he also gav them free will...they culd have EVERYTHING in the garden....but they chose that one thing thet culdnt hav...God gave them instructions...they rejected them...so now go point ur finger where it belongs...
2007-10-12 17:02:55 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 2⤋
God gave man free will. Without choice there would be none.
2007-10-12 17:01:28 · answer #11 · answered by Someone who cares 7 · 3⤊ 2⤋